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CSo me and my gf went to a restaurant in the outskirts. We were having dinner and our car was parked in the parking lot. When we came back we had an intimate moment and we were making out in the car. Nothing over the top, simple kissing each other for a while. We had met each other after a month and we felt like we needed the moment. A cop came by and noticed we were kissing. He called me down and told me we were creating public nuisance and he was going to hold us responsible. He called us outside the restaurant, took my mobile and called another cop. They told me what we were doing was recorded in the nearby cameras and they were gonna file a public nuisance case against us. I knew it was far fetched but I didn’t want to create a scene and make my gf uncomfortable. He asked me to give him 10k as cash and he’ll spare me. I ended up giving him the money. I didn’t want to put her in a embarrassing situation. But now I’m regretting my actions. What should I have done in this kind of a situation
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SAsk them to file a public nuisance case and challenge it in court. Your weakness is their strength. What’s done is done.
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COn hindsight I really wished I did. But at that moment I couldn’t take the call. I ended up being gullible
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F>Your weakness is their strength.
Also the feeling of protecting ourselves and those we love
You surely don’t want your partner to go through the rigamorale of police questioning. It doesn’t need to be against the law, just the officer deciding you’re creating *nuisance*
You’ll be able to prove it all as nonsense in court but you’d have dragged yourself and your partner through police intimidation, multiple rounds of police station visits, and the ignominy of *samaj* watching this unfold
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B>Your weakness is their strength.
Also the feeling of protecting ourselves and those we love
You surely don’t want your partner to go through the rigamorale of police questioning. It doesn’t need to be against the law, just the officer deciding you’re creating *nuisance*
You’ll be able to prove it all as nonsense in court but you’d have dragged yourself and your partner through police intimidation, multiple rounds of police station visits, and the ignominy of *samaj* watching this unfold
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CIt’s not the money that bothers me. My gf and I just opened up about our relationship in our house and there’s still some convincing needed in our homes. So I didn’t want to create any mess that might harm our chances. Moreover I really couldn’t let her go through these swindlers bs.
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WMaking out with one’s partner in the privacy of a car is a public nuisance, but an officer of the law making a scene and extorting 10K is somehow “not” a public nuisance? I hope you get the legal advice you need.
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DWait, how is it a public nuisance? 😕
You live in a country where you can piss in public and not kiss? 😭
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WAccording to the cop’s warped logic, OP’s behaviour was a public nuisance. Truth is, the cop was a public nuisance to OP.
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SWe can’t keep repeating the same excuses or statements to defend our actions, especially when they show a lack of civic sense. Making out in public is considered a public nuisance and it’s illegal. Justifying it by saying things like “peeing in public isn’t illegal, so this should be allowed too” doesn’t make sense, one wrong doesn’t excuse another.
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IBuddy, it was public nuisance, if anyone saw that & put up a complaint. It is entirely different that if there are no evidence of it, it becomes a he said she said. And even if it exists, would his higher-ups pursue it. But, what is even entirely different matter is that you would incur more in legal fees & wasted time & opportunity if you pursued it legally. Plus, this is India, and not pre-Trump America, that cops are expected to act honourable & uphold the law to the T. They can just add any random charge on top to just make you suffer.
But, what can be done now? If you want to pursue it, there are mechanisms to put up a complaint of bribery against cops. You can look at it. You may get back your 10k, but do consider the at what cost of it. Next time, choose a better place.
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MKissing is neither obscene nor construed as public nuisance and has been established in various cases. Most writers in a police station will not even go through the effort of doing the paper work for this. Due to some unfortunate circumstance if this travels up the chain it would have been closed with a 200rs fine in the station.
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SHow is it a public nuisance when both are above 18 years old and doing it with both interest? It would be a nuisance if 1 of them is forcing the other or bothering other etc. It’s very sad that husbands beating their wives on roads is not considered as nuisance but someone kissing with love is.. Seriously?
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Lwhat to do when u encounter such cops? ( assume i have no connections) . how to get out of such situations without loosing aura
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UHe asked a genuine question, we can pay the amount and get rid of the hassle but my blood boils to give a single penny to these corrupt cops. We really need to know what to do in such situations. There are 100s of illegal activities go on in the city but they can’t dare to stop those, they call only harass law abiding citizens by catching petty crimes (i don’t see kissing with partner in car even a crime)
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MI encountered a rather unique situation recently, which I managed to navigate on my own, despite having some connections in the area.
While driving in my village, I accidentally found myself on the wrong side of the road. My relative, who is new to the village, was in the car with me. A police officer was stationed at an intersection and allowed me to pass. However, when he noticed a car with a different city number plate, he stopped them.
I approached the officer to inquire about the reason for the stop, and they informed me that, due to the wrong-side driving, a fine of Rs. 2000 would be issued. I responded that it was acceptable to issue fines for both vehicles online, as we preferred to address the matter once the fines were processed.
The officer warned us about the possibility of a court case, which would require both of us to appear in court multiple times. I assured him we were willing to proceed with filing the challan. The officer then suggested that we could avoid this by paying him 500, but I insisted on receiving an online challan, questioning why he would offer such an alternative.
I requested to see the officer’s identification card and badge number, as I couldn’t see them clearly. He declined to show them and attempted to enter my relative’s car, where an elderly person was seated in the front. I intervened, questioning his behavior, and decided to call the police emergency number to report the situation. Once the officer realized I was making the call, he quickly left the scene.
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WNAL!
Okay, here’s the thing. Pay up if you wanna avoid the hassle of being dragged to the station(not literally)
My advise would be not pay at all. Don’t get violent but also don’t give in. Educate yourself on these laws. Public obscenity is sort of a gray area in the law and cops take advantage of it. What construes public obscenity? Well, if you made anyone uncomfortable in the public- sadly they can press charges. If there’s no one, cops will plant them. We live in a sorry state of a country and there’s not much we can do about it. Corruption won’t just go away and the lawmakers don’t care about it coz they’re all absolute garbage as well.
So, either study the laws on these subjects or make a really good lawyer friend. Cops hate lawyers(well, the ones that aren’t sold yet)
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WBc you are too fucking gullible, best thing to do in this scenario is to call a “lawyer friend” and let him sternly talk with him, you would have left after giving 100 only, or you could have drove off or simply haggled.
I with 5 friends went to a hill at night, it’s against the law and the police guard caught us, we haggled from 2k “fine” per person to 700 rupees total, paid via upi and told him we would complaint against him, got 500 back lol, and yeh wasted 5 hours of his night lol
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FNot everyone has a “Lawyer friend” and the time to deal with these corrupt cops. They will anyway try to shame him in public if he tries to retaliate, OP just doesn’t want his girlfriend to go through all that sh*t.
On a side note, just don’t call anyone gullible as you just happened to haggle a police officer and also the case of yours and OP is very different. -
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Mcall 100 (police) and say you are being held by police officials for no reason.
nearest police station will get in touch with you and solve the matter on phone itself.
mere sath huwa h. maine kaha mujhe dara rhe hai jabardasti pakad rakha hai. they got a call and gave me my key back (jabardasti gadi ki chabi le liye they).
they even asked me. Kahan kaam krte ho ?
I said “Next time bataounga, bye.”
they said they can take me to police station and question me. i said, let’s go.
they didn’t expected that.after 5 odd minutes they had to give me keys and left without a penny.
Lesson : Darne ka nahi, show then you know your rights. they will leave without harming you in any manner.
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EWhat you did was right as per your situation.
1. If you were concerned that you didn’t want to know people or your known that you have GF and also may be her family is conservative and could create issues.
Than I would do the same just pay money and move on.2. If I am fine with people in my life knowing that I have GF and as adults it’s natural to kiss and even be intimate with partners sometime in public places. We all have done that – even that corrupt police men also
Than I will evaluate these two options considering Indian Police and whole system is Corrupt, That’s why we call them Thulla.
a. Is my time worth chasing this ? You may not pay 10000 bribe but you may end up spending time money running behind system for several months until you wished you could have paid
b. What output I will have.
No action will be taken against this police men. It’s another day for him
Do not think too much, I would pay and move on. That’s the price when we live in Corrupt country where people get punished by the system?
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DNAL.
Logic and freedom apart cop could have booked you under section 296 of BNS obscene act. Not exactly public nuisance but again this depends upon cops to add or remove sections.A lot of people have said you should have let them book you and you could have fought in court . I can’t comment on that. You could have spent literally thousands , you and your GFs image washed in public and who know what else sections could have been added . So this decision depends upon you.
I don’t condone bribery and what they did was illegal as well but then what would you choose? Easy way out or fighting a case which God knows what will bring.
Anyways it’s my opinion and I am glad you are out of the mess.
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CI think it the whole fiasco wasn’t worth the effort to drag my gf around. That’s why I paid up. Price for my peace
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PI can’t say that I was in a similar situation, but I was in a service road with a female friend with tinted windows. I am sure all he could see was two people sitting in a car and thats what we were doing not even holding hands just sitting and gossiping about something.
This guy sees our car takes a u-turn I knew what was coming for, so I rolled the windows down, he takes a look inside the car and asks me what are you doing I told him I am teaching her how to drive an automatic car, he says what was in your hand — to which I responded nothing, he immediately says get out of the car, I told him no I am not getting out of the car tell me whats up? When he asked me 3 time to get out of the car I told him I have a dashcam which is recording everything tell me whatsup? He panics says oh you have nothing in your hand okay and runs like a bitch he was 😂.The female friend’s dad was a sub-inspector, which I didn’t have to mention as the dashcam took care of it 👌
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SHere’s my problem with all the cop bashing. Indians are hard wired to bend the law whenever it’s convenient to them. Almost all Indians, including me and OP break multiple rules on daily basis.this hypocracy brings corruption.
We want our roads safe, but won’t follow rules. We don’t want want garbage, but won’t use dustbins. We will rush to stores who don’t pay taxes, so we can save some money, we wont carry own bags, but complain about polythenes..the list goes on.For serious infractions , any Indian with any kind on contact will ring that person to sort out the issue without going to the police station. Many young people join the force, hoping to make a change, but the system kills their morals. Most politicians are literally goons. But the public find them a fit to lead them.
In this case, the OP didn’t pay because he was scared of the law, he did so cause the society finds it taboo, and he didn’t want his gf to face the problems. The cop benefitted of this situation. We can bash him all we want, but the problem is much deeper.
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AAlthough no specific law makes kissing in public illegal, section 294 of the Indian Penal Code prohibits public obscenity, which can be interpreted to include public displays of affection like kissing that cause annoyance or objection to others.
If you argue too much, without any powerful relative to back you up, cops can easily get fake witnesses to file a complaint of public annoyance or obscenity. You plead, beg and negotiate and end up paying 5k and get away from this situation.
Believe me you don’t want to face a case of this type in the Indian courts.
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PYou need to be very confident in this kind of sticky situation. You have done nothing wrong other than public nuisance. Tell them you are willing to go to the court or meet the SI of that area and willing to pay a fine with receipt. They know that it’s embarrassing for both of you to waist time. Next time don’t budge and speak the local language and tell them willing to go to court. They are just scamming you both
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