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PDoes the concept of casteism exist as per Indian law?
I belong to brahmin iyer community
During the engagement, my fiance’s family made a formal announcement in which they mentioned the grandparents name and village. As Iyer.
After one of the dates, the guy disclosed to me that his paternal grandfather is not a brahmin Iyer. So the lineage itself is non Brahmin.
Does this engagement patrika (formal announcement) still valid?
What are the legal implications as i do not intend to tell my father as he has health issues and do not wish to stress him out?
I cannot cancel or walk away as well as that can cause stress for my father too.
I am very disappointed that his family lied about the caste on shaadi and also while they met us. And i angry with him for withholding information.
P.s. Before the negative ppl judge me,
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MIt’s about trust,not caste.. It’s a very vital piece of information which the groom’s side withheld from you guys..
The very base of marriage whether it’s arranged or love is based on trust..
If they hide such a vital piece of information now,do you trust them with your life..
Please don’t hide anything from your father as if you don’t tell him now, anyway after marriage they will come to know about it .
Imagine the agony then..
Please tell your parents everything and let them decide..
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P1. Does casteism exist as per Indian law?
Yes, caste as a concept exists in Indian law. caste discriminating is illegal, identifying one’s caste (e.g., in marriage negotiations or rituals) isn’t.
2. Is the engagement patrika (formal announcement) legally binding?
No, an engagement patrika is not a legal contract. It’s a social or cultural document, not enforceable in court. So There are no direct legal consequences of the announcement being inaccurate.
3. Legal implications of false caste representation
If your fiancé or his family intentionally misrepresented caste to gain your family’s approval, it can be considered misrepresentation or suppression of facts, but only if:
– There is proof of intent to deceive.
– The misrepresentation influenced your consent.
– There was any exchange or agreement based on caste (e.g., dowry, property, caste-based trust).Legally, there are no caste-specific marriage restrictions under the Special Marriage Act or Hindu Marriage Act. So even if his paternal lineage isn’t Iyer, it doesn’t invalidate a marriage, unless you were coerced or deceived into agreeing.
4. What can you do? (Your options)
– Honest Conversation: Speak to your fiancé directly, calmly but firmly.
Ask why this information was hidden and whether his entire family was aware. See if you get honesty and transparency now — it matters more than caste in the long run.– Confidential Legal Consultation: You can confidentially consult a family lawyer or a marriage counselor with legal background — many will keep it private and just give you clarity without any record.
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BA little family drama mixed with some lies and caste games. Let me break this down –
1. **Does casteism exist according to Indian law?**
Yes, caste-based discrimination is banned under **Article 15** of the Indian Constitution, which prohibits discrimination on grounds of religion, race, caste, sex, or place of birth. So legally, casteism in the form of discrimination is **not allowed**. But, let’s be real, caste still plays a huge role in many personal and social settings, especially when it comes to arranged marriages and family expectations. Your situation is an example of how caste can still creep in, despite legal protections.2. **Does the engagement patrika still hold weight?**
Technically, **no**, it’s not a legally binding document. The engagement patrika is more of a **cultural formality**, a public announcement that your families are coming together. If the truth comes out that your fiancé’s family lied about his caste, there’s **no real legal action** you can take just because they stretched the truth on this. However, it’s more of a **trust issue**. If they misrepresented themselves, it shows a lack of transparency, which can cause trouble later, especially when you want to face your family and community.3. **What are the legal implications of this?**
In terms of **legal implications**, there’s nothing you can do unless there’s actual **fraudulent activity**, like if they forged documents or lied under oath about something important to the marriage contract. But if it’s simply a matter of lying about caste on a formal engagement announcement, it’s **not a criminal issue**. It’s a personal, social issue, and it’s up to you to figure out if you want to continue with this engagement knowing that they weren’t upfront with you. No law is going to intervene in this.4. **What should you do?**
First off, **stop stressing yourself over legalities** because you can’t change the truth that was hidden. If you don’t want to tell your father because of his health, I get it, but sooner or later, you’re going to have to decide whether you want to live with this lie. If you’re feeling **disappointed** and **angry**, it’s a sign that you need to talk to your fiancé and express your feelings. This isn’t just about caste — it’s about trust. If he can’t be honest with you about something as important as this, what happens when bigger issues come up?And look, if you can’t cancel the engagement or walk away because of your father’s health, then that’s on you to manage. But realize that staying in something that doesn’t feel right will hurt you more in the long run. **Don’t let this turn into resentment**. Address it, talk it through with your fiancé, and decide where you stand. **Don’t stay stuck in something that’s causing you stress**.
5. **What about your father?**
Look, I get that you don’t want to stress your father, but you also need to **look out for your own peace of mind**. He might have health issues, but keeping this to yourself might make the situation worse for both you and him. It’s better to clear the air, either with him or with your fiancé’s family. Hiding it might seem like a good short-term fix, but long-term, it’ll just create more tension.So, here’s the bottom line: Caste doesn’t matter according to the law, but **trust and honesty do**. Don’t let anyone play with that, especially when it’s about your future. If you’re serious about this relationship, then start with the truth. If the truth doesn’t sit well, then don’t stick with the lie. Simple as that.
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SDoesn’t matter what ever he did is wrong. You should cancel the marriage immediately. Imagine if he had lied about his caste and then proceeded for marriage. It’s a major red flag. We did the same with our cousin. She got a match and then just before marriage he revealed the boys father is not brahmin and mother is Brahmin. We lost so much money for the marriage expenses and a lot of emotional trauma for my cousin. Later she got married to a super loving man. She’s happy now. We took the best decision. Do it. Don’t fall for cheaters
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