Cheque Bounce + Fraud by Bank RM

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      Proankit8173
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        March 24, 2025 at 5:36 am
        This is my first legal advice on reddit. I have no other option left. Few years ago my mother was scammed by Bank RM, she periodically kept withdrawing cash in her name by forging her signature on cheque. We then filed police complaint, after which she was arrested for 2 months and finally agreed to pay us the money back by cheque. The cheques obviously bounced so we filed S 138. The proceedings began in 2022 till now there is no progress or outcome whatsoever. We changed a lawyer because our previous lawyer was double crossing us. Initially the judge was on leave for months together, then the judge changed, had to go through training, after which the new judge was also on leave for months together. We have also filed criminal matter which is going on since 4 years as well. As you can guess, no progress. Is there anything else that can be done now? Or should we give up on this? The amount is more than 14 lakhs.

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          March 24, 2025 at 5:51 am
          Keep pursuing it and watch your lawyer on every date.

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              March 24, 2025 at 5:52 am
              Thank you for replying. The most recent date my lawyer was late. What are the red flags in him that I need to watch out for?
              I can keep pursuing the matter till I can afford to pay the lawyers, but it has started to take a toll on my mother’s mental health.

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              March 24, 2025 at 5:55 am
              Its not the lawyers. Its the judges and the leaves.

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                  March 24, 2025 at 5:57 am
                  Thank you for replying. It was my lawyer at one point in time. He was asking is to pay hefty amounts in cash “to deal with the police.” Never showed up on dates even if judge was present, and later we found out that he was making deals with the accused.

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                      March 24, 2025 at 6:25 am
                      That sucks.

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                        March 24, 2025 at 7:03 am
                        Talk to IO for your case. Offer him some portion from recovered cash and then see the impact. Not a legal way but it works.

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                            March 24, 2025 at 8:42 am
                            Thanks for replying. I have gone that route. 2 of them took my money and didn’t let me know that they are getting transferred πŸ™‚

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                        March 24, 2025 at 7:49 am
                        I am unclear on the exact details, but you shouldn’t have withdrawn the criminals complaint before receiving the stolen money in full.

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                            March 24, 2025 at 7:51 am
                            The complaint is not withdrawn. She was granted bail. The FIR and Chargesheet are filed and criminal matter is going on. Since about half a year we are waiting for handwriting report.

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                            March 24, 2025 at 8:40 am
                            You did not seek reimbursement from the bank for the RMs frauds?..This is the first thing you should have done

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                                March 24, 2025 at 8:44 am
                                Thank you for replying. We have filed consumer case, which is also still going on without any fruitful outcome.

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                                    March 24, 2025 at 8:46 am
                                    Consumer case ?..they did not offer to settle ..very strange

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                                        March 24, 2025 at 8:48 am
                                        They did. They offered us out of court settlement. It’s a very long story. My advocate told me to delay the matter because he thinks the bank won’t pay. Additionally he wants to use judgment from criminal court to make the consumer case “strong.”

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                                            March 24, 2025 at 8:57 am
                                            That does not make sense. Criminal part is considered a crime against society..that is why the prosecution fights on your behalf. If you want money now and bank is willing to compensate you for lossand say pay you some interest also then no point .ask them to reimburse your legal coat also of need be . Consumer Court will take nearly 1.5 years to dispose off your complaint.

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                                                March 24, 2025 at 9:01 am
                                                Oh God. This could mean my lawyer doesn’t want me to settle with the bank. He probably thinks that if I settle then I won’t be pursuing the civil matters anymore. He seems to be taking advantage of my lack of knowledge. Thanks for the advice. Do banks usually compensate the full amount though?

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                                                    March 24, 2025 at 9:21 am
                                                    When i was in a bank, we had a situatikn wherein our customer lost β‚Ή16lacs due to debit card being skimmed. We paid out the money lost plus savings bank interest and legal expenses as part of settlement in court.

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                                                        March 24, 2025 at 9:26 am
                                                        Thank you. Now since we made the huge mistake by delaying the consumer court matter by taking multiple dates, and not replying to offer for out of court settlement, do we still have chances of winning the case?

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                                                            March 24, 2025 at 9:30 am
                                                            You can still try. Request the court to close it and facilitate closure with sime litigation cost slso added to final figure alongside savings or FD interest

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                                              March 24, 2025 at 12:44 pm
                                              File a complain with banking ombudsman. It’s a fast track court

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                                                  March 24, 2025 at 1:04 pm
                                                  Time limit lapsed. Can’t do.

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                                                      March 24, 2025 at 1:12 pm
                                                      File a complain for mental harassment

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                                                    March 24, 2025 at 12:45 pm
                                                    Notice has been framed in the matter, pre summoning evidence has been filed, is she appearing on each and every hearing?

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                                                        March 24, 2025 at 1:03 pm
                                                        Thank you for replying. All that was done in 2022 itself. Notice was sent, Evidence has been filed, summons issued long ago. When the hearings finally began she was absent for 1 date so the summons was issued again. Then for multiple dates she appeared without lawyer, after which we appealed for 20% recovery on those grounds, won the appeal, court issued order for her to pay up. She didn’t obviously. She then applied for transfer to different court which was rejected, after which judge was on leave, after which the judge was changed, after which the new judge was on training and then there was vacation, and then the new judge went on leave. The accused then applied for no cross order (which is stupid, but I guess she was trying to pass the time), we sent a reply that it cannot proceed without cross, judge accepted the reply and in the most recent date she again came without lawyer, hence was fined for wasting time, and the judge has said that in the next date they will proceed with the matter whatsoever. That’s a short summary of what happened in 3 years.
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                                                        My main concern and question is: Does 138 matter really take this much time? Is this common or there is something fishy with my lawyer?
                                                        Accused strangely has a very confident demeanor inside the criminal court. While requesting for next date, she started verbally abusing my mother and me INSIDE the criminal court. Where does this kind of confidence come from, here my concern is if PP is involved in supporting her?

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                                                        March 24, 2025 at 11:31 pm
                                                        How much money involved. What’s your mom’s income. Report to media may be.

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