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ENAL.
In case of a crisis of this kind,
– Lay low, deactivate all social media (if not delete it).
– Hire a good lawyer to try and reduce the severity of consequences, because there are surely going to be quite a handful of those.Rest everything depends on the severity of damages caused to the company. If it was something business critical, he might be looking to pay heavy damages.
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RFrom where we can hire a lawyer?? Like can career be saved and can we get the releieving letter ?
This FIR can destroy career? Can this FIR be deleted ??-
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VYes Fir will destroy his career.
Have seen a case like this.
Company will file a case under corporate espionage which will show up in all the future background verification.
He won’t get a job for a considerable amount of time.Imagine yourself as the hiring manager of a reputed organization.
You selected someone for a new role but the background verification report highlights that he sabotaged his previous employer and has a case going in the court.
Would you onboard the person ?
Ask the company to settle out of court and ask them if they can take back the FIR.
Also if there is no proof he did it ask him to disagree to all the accusations.But if the company can prove it , suggest your friend to negotiate.
And tell him that in real world actions have consequences unless you are born to rich and powerful parents.
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PWhat max you can do is delete your personal data from the employer laptop and maybe your saved codes and all but not from the cloud server or anything which is business critical
First thing you need to understand if you’re fired or leave by your choice the code you developed or anything you’ve done over the period of time you’re paid for those services or you’re compensated for that it’s not your property.If your friend has done something that will impact business user or any way hamper their work then your friend is in deep trouble also when they’ll share any releaving letter they will mention it there about termination of employment and why it happened also in any background check if they have filed an FIR that’ll be visible and any future employer will ask about it for sure and future employer if reachout to the HR they’ll straight away told them about what your friend did.
It’s better to apologise and if it’s on cloud I am very much sure that can be retrieved very easily , that’s my way of thinking I am not sure what others think but take suggestions and do the right thing -
AThe best option is to try to settle with the company. Whether they will agree depends on many factors, including:
Nature of data deleted
Damage to the company
Relationship with managers and nature of departure
Who the employer is – if it is a big MNC or large Indian company, they most probably won’t show any flexibility -
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PI don’t get where people get the confidence to pull shit like this with no political/monetary backing! If i delete data ik i have money to never want a job ever.
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ILol if any employee of mine pulls off shit like this i’d go to war with him to make sure that he suffers as much as possible, there’s zero chance i’d settle it with him out of court
People like this should be made into an example
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RI’m sure the company has retrieved the data from a backup. They’re using this to teach your friend a lesson and they should
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QI don’t think so.
If they have a backup, the data is safe, they didn’t lose it. So what is the purpose of legal action if there is no damage?
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SThere was damage except they recovered it. If u beat up someone and they heal back to normal after a few days, does that mean that person cannot take legal action as there’s no “damage”?
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WDoesn’t work that way. If you burn down someones house, the fact that it can be rebuilt doesn’t make the arson any less of a crime. Even if you compensate, it will remain a crime.
Similarly, deleting the files is an act of sabotage and the company being able to retrieve the data doesn’t make it less of a crime.
The purpose of legal action is to punish the culprit and set them as an example to deter others from trying the same.
In this case, this person can kiss his career good bye. Somebody got caught doing something similar at my previous company and his career ended after that. He was never able to get another white collar job.
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DIf you get punched in the face and the bruise healed, should the person be let off free because there’s no damages?
The work involved in restoring the data and the delays in operations while waiting for the work and the various problems and inconveniences experienced during and after that are all forms of damages.
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Pso this company had enough bandwidth and perseverance to go to police but not enough to have backups?
Your friend is a dick and hopefully it teaches him a lesson.
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SI would unfriend such people.
Why would someone be so vindictive? What did he really achieve by deleting office data? Every office has several backups and imagecopy of important data.
Indians are anyway known globally for lack of ethics, your friend proved that even further.
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MI have been in IT for more than 15 years and have never come across such a person – that deleted data intentionally. So please stop stereotyping.
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SAre you a fast reader or a bad reader? Becauase the OP did not mention “accidentally” deleted the data.
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MI guess you read bad, I mentioned that I haven’t come across anyone that deleted intentionally. It means, that people delete by accident.
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SI believe your comprehension skills have become rusty. The OP mentioned his friend deleted company data. He did not mention if it was accidental, but, if it were, he would have definitely mentioned that the act was accidental and not intentional. People do not leave out the most important detail.
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RYour friend doesn’t have any leeway here except going back to the company and asking for forgiveness. Corporate espionage is a criminal offense and he will likely fail all his future background checks. His only option is to work in a company which is family run / startup where they don’t have funds to do proper background checks.
Honestly, I don’t know if this was a mistake or a deliberate juvenile attempt at getting back at the company. If latter, you should dump your friend as he seems to be petty and fickle minded. No manager in their right mind would hire someone like that
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CMy 2 cents, make better friends!
Delete the data, is it a child’s play going on !
He deserves jail and fine for his deeds, I don’t support it !
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COk they need to prove intent … which is very difficult… wats stopping him from saying it was a mistake… unless tht idiot did not brag about it police will not take action… but he is an AH TBH
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P1. Your “friend” is doomed if your “friends” org has the audit logs which prove he did it.
2. Your “friends” company should suffer all of this mess if they’ve given RWS access on production data with no backups.
Ik someone who was in cisco who did this in US. Hes in jail now, FBI got involved in his case, he got a 2 year prison sentence, 1 year under surveillance after that. https://threatpost.com/cisco-employee-convicted-deleting-webex-accounts/162246/
Fortunately your “friend” is in India so may be it’ll take a few years before he actually gets jailed, but it’s inevitable.
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EIf the company has given access to multiple employees then it will be difficult for them to prove that your friend did anything.
If they have the means to prove they did it, then company can file an fir under BNS 324 which has max punishment upto 5 years plus they can try to recover damages and legal fees etc.
In any case, they will not be clearing your friend’s background checks for future jobs very easily.
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NHaving working in IT orgs, I can say that what your friend did is something very stupid. All company/work data belongs to the organization, they have ownership and copyright over it. All software code is written and saved on company hardware or infrastructure. Destroying any such data without permission is legally punishable.
As others have said, chances are the data was backed up and probable restored by now. But that is immaterial as the company can legally go after your friend for data crimes he has committed. And why should any company not get angry at this potential loss or destruction of their IP.
Best chances is to approach the company and ask for forgiveness and pay a fine/compensation to withdraw the FIR. Once it gets into FIR and court stage, your friend would never get a job again in IT (he would fail any background check and no other IT firm would want to hire someone who has destroyed company data.) nor would be able to get a Passport (or even a Visa, incase he somehow manages to get a Passport, as countries always ask if any criminal cases are filed, in their visa applications.)
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