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        January 14, 2025 at 8:44 am
        This is for a friend of mine. He got a call from a policeman in a different city who said there is a FIR in your name and you have to come to the thana for an inquiry. My friend thought it was a scam and said send the papers by WhatsApp.

        He checked the phone numbers on the police department website and called back the same policeman. It checked out. Later he got a notice by WhatsApp. The notice said an FIR (with the number) has been filed in your name, and list of some BNS sections.

        My friend checked the online service and the FIR with that particular number is not available. My friend then called the police to ask for copy of the official FIR, but they said you have to come in person to collect it. So my friend’s lawyer visited the court and there also the FIR is not filed. The lawyer visited the police station but they did give him any information.

        So now we are not sure what the situation is or could be.

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          January 14, 2025 at 8:48 am
          hire another lawyer if that lawyer is unable to help you.

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              January 14, 2025 at 9:10 am
              What should be the desired outcome?

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                  January 14, 2025 at 9:16 am
                  Basically you need a lawyer who can help you answer your queries and advising way forward. He should already know what needs to be done.

                  Without whole details and without checking the documents no one can advise you anything here.

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                January 14, 2025 at 8:48 am
                Itโ€™s a scam,donโ€™t get digitally arrested.

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                    January 14, 2025 at 9:12 am
                    It’s not a digital arrest situation.

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                    January 14, 2025 at 8:49 am
                    Seems sus. Even if the FIR thing is real the police seems to be biased here. What are the charges? Who is the complainant?

                    Don’t go to the station unless the lawyer says so, they may be luring in your friend to arrest him.

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                        January 14, 2025 at 9:11 am
                        How can we verify whether the FIR is real? It’s not in the court and not filed online.

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                            January 14, 2025 at 9:13 am
                            What does his lawyer say?

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                                January 14, 2025 at 9:20 am
                                Not sure, i think he has relaxed a little after hearing that the FIR is not actually filed in the court. I’ll ask.

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                                    January 14, 2025 at 9:42 am
                                    FIR gets investigated. Then on conclusion of investigation if anything is found or not found then it goes to court for further directions. Chargesheet is filed in cases where some commission of cognizable offence is found.

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                                  January 14, 2025 at 9:48 am
                                  Most state police have FIR download facility on their website..check it out

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                                      January 14, 2025 at 9:57 am
                                      Yes that’s what we both did. Checked that website. Suppose the FIR notice is for 10/2025. On the website, we can see FIR number 9/2025 and 11/2025 but not 10/2025. It’s also not filed in court.

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                                          January 14, 2025 at 10:00 am
                                          In that case i have my doubts. The police jn India can be notorious in not doing it. If he so keen to talk to your friend ask him to send summons through proper channel, which jn your case is the local court of your district

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                                              January 14, 2025 at 10:03 am
                                              Thanks. Couple of follow up questions

                                              1. The districts are different. Will they file in their district or ours (my friend’s)?

                                              1. Is it possible to create an FIR notice without the actual FIR? Because this department has filed all their other FIRs online.

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                                                  January 14, 2025 at 10:06 am
                                                  If districts are different and same state still same protocol is to be followed. The case will be monitored by local magistrate where it was filed initially

                                                  Q2..in case it is a simple complaint and not yet onboarded as an FIR..then it may ne that police is acting for somebody

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                                                      January 14, 2025 at 10:11 am
                                                      And if it’s a different state?

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                                                        January 14, 2025 at 10:12 am
                                                        > in case it is a simple complaint and not yet onboarded as an FIR..then it may ne that police is acting for somebody

                                                        Okay. That may be a possibility

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                                                January 14, 2025 at 9:56 am
                                                Check it on court website. You can check firs on court website

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                                                    January 14, 2025 at 9:58 am
                                                    Yes that’s what we did. Checked that website. Suppose the FIR notice is for 10/2025. On the website, we can see FIR number 9/2025 and 11/2025 but not 10/2025. It’s also not filed in court.

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                                                January 14, 2025 at 9:01 am
                                                Interesting

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                                                  January 14, 2025 at 9:12 am
                                                  Update us whatโ€™s happening

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                                                    January 14, 2025 at 9:13 am
                                                    New scam?

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                                                        January 14, 2025 at 9:19 am
                                                        The police are legit cops. We both checked their names and numbers on the police department website. The same people answer the phone.

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                                                        January 14, 2025 at 9:39 am
                                                        When your lawyer visited the police station, did they atleast confirm that an fir was filed? Under which section is the notice issued? I am not asking charging sections.

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                                                            January 14, 2025 at 9:50 am
                                                            Notice was issued under section 35(3) of BNS

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                                                              January 14, 2025 at 9:53 am
                                                              > When your lawyer visited the police station, did they atleast confirm that an fir was filed?

                                                              No.

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                                                                  January 14, 2025 at 1:27 pm
                                                                  So when police only wants to enquire wrt a crime and not arrest, notice under 35(3) is sent. From the looks of it it seems legit. Such notices are sent regularly in enquiries where arrest is not required.

                                                                  But what is suspicious is that cops didn’t confirm the filing to your lawyer. Most likely the lawyer didn’t meet the right person or is incompetent. Also possible that the notice is a fake, but we ll leave that to later.

                                                                  You should find another lawyer to confirm and meet the officer whose name is mentioned in the notice and check with him. Only once it’s confirmed you can decide on next course of action.

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                                                                      January 14, 2025 at 1:43 pm
                                                                      I see. Thanks for explaining.

                                                                      If arrest is not required, is it safe for me to go visit the thana myself?

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                                                                          January 14, 2025 at 1:50 pm
                                                                          Do you have any idea what the issue could be related to?

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                                                                              January 14, 2025 at 2:02 pm
                                                                              The charges are bogus. But it’s filed by a girl who my friend used to know.

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                                                                                  January 17, 2025 at 7:05 pm
                                                                                  A lot of times when offences are related to a girl it doesnโ€™t show online and could be a reason why you can see FIR 9/2025 and 11/2025

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                                                                                January 14, 2025 at 1:53 pm
                                                                                What we do is, visit the police station, understand what the complaint is about and then decide whether our client should go or not. You lawyer needs to find out who has filed the complaint and for what.

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                                                                                    January 14, 2025 at 2:01 pm
                                                                                    Got it. Thanks ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ

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                                                                            January 14, 2025 at 9:52 am
                                                                            Which state?

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                                                                              January 14, 2025 at 9:59 am
                                                                              Sometimes if you receive money from some crypto app or online gambling, that money is tainted or scammed from someone else , on basis of that complaint they track all the accounts and money trail and issue notices

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                                                                                January 14, 2025 at 10:03 am
                                                                                Every complaint is not an FIR.

                                                                                It might have a number something like CCTNS

                                                                                That’s the central system for complaints. Ask the cop to send notice of investigation
                                                                                That, generally, will state clearly the complaint number, the nature of complaint, who are all involved and some vague direction of why you are being called.
                                                                                This will generally also state that you will not be arrested without due process and that this is just an investigation.

                                                                                They make you travel from other cities to just create some pressure and also hopes of some bribes.

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                                                                                    January 14, 2025 at 10:10 am
                                                                                    There’s no cctns also.

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                                                                                        January 14, 2025 at 5:46 pm
                                                                                        Can you share the actual fir number ?

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                                                                                            January 14, 2025 at 5:49 pm
                                                                                            I’ll ask him.

                                                                                            Do you mind sharing where you practice? I can put you both in contact if it’s relevant. At least you can have a short chat.

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                                                                                        January 14, 2025 at 10:07 am
                                                                                        The FIR gets published online, if it isnโ€™t then the offence must be related to a women & you get a notice at your place of residence so donโ€™t respond to any calls or messages

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                                                                                            January 14, 2025 at 10:10 am
                                                                                            Is there a reason for the police to not be responsive with the lawyer?

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                                                                                                January 14, 2025 at 10:13 am
                                                                                                They generally never cooperate until and unless you pay them or have some influence. They want the actual party so they can extort monkey out of him

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                                                                                                January 14, 2025 at 10:35 am
                                                                                                But even if it’s not published online, it should still filed at the court, right?

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                                                                                                    January 14, 2025 at 10:49 am
                                                                                                    It has to be in the court

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                                                                                                        January 14, 2025 at 10:59 am
                                                                                                        And if it’s not, it’s probably bogus?

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                                                                                                            January 15, 2025 at 2:51 am
                                                                                                            Most likely yes, but see the contents of the fir

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                                                                                                            January 14, 2025 at 1:41 pm
                                                                                                            does the FIR immediately get filed in the court after registering at police station.

                                                                                                            or is it only when the charge sheet is filed with the court (after investigation).

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                                                                                                            January 14, 2025 at 2:13 pm
                                                                                                            FIR is filed in the court only after the investigation (charge sheet).

                                                                                                            the thana is calling you, means investigation is still going on and investigating officer wants to talks.

                                                                                                            you should be able to look up the FIR in the police website of your state.

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                                                                                                                January 14, 2025 at 2:16 pm
                                                                                                                So at this stage, can they arrest him if he visits the thana?

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                                                                                                                    January 14, 2025 at 5:31 pm
                                                                                                                    if you go to police station on your own, anything can happen.

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                                                                                                                        January 14, 2025 at 5:48 pm
                                                                                                                        Understood

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                                                                                                                When FIR contains sensitive data such as in case of rape, molestation the FIR is not uploaded on website. The same can be availed by the accused through RTI

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                                                                                                                  January 14, 2025 at 6:06 pm
                                                                                                                  Send a lawyer

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                                                                                                                    April 28, 2025 at 8:09 am
                                                                                                                    Hey, was this a scam?

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                                                                                                                        April 29, 2025 at 7:13 am
                                                                                                                        No. Was serious

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                                                                                                                            What was it about? How did it go for your friend

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