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UHi everyone, I need your advice on an issue a friend of mine is facing. He works for a company with a nationwide presence and had submitted fake bills for reimbursement. The compliance team has now caught this and is requesting employees’ bank statements as evidence, including fake bills and edited transaction snapshots. Should he refuse to provide his bank statement and accept any consequences, or should he admit the bill was fake?
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SLawyer here.
The best course of action? Resign. Because the company is already suspicious, and one way or another, they will find proof of wrongdoing, and then they will terminate your “friend” for misconduct/embezzlement, which will basically make him unemployable forever.
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SFor them the amount is nothing, so recovery of that is usually not a priority. I’m not your lawyer, this is not legal advice, but if I were you, I would not display my bank account and confirm myself a criminal, and just resign and live with plausible deniability.
As for the letters, it’s complicated. They can give or not give those, depending on their wish. There is no law regulating this. However, it is better to have no experience letter, than receiving one that states your “friend” was involved in criminal misappropriation from the company, which will basically finish his career.
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CWell best thing would be editing statemrnt with exact id for now and not doing it again there is no way anyone other tha. Account holder can check it abyways
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SHe’s already caught when he shared those fake receipts. Share fake statement would be digging deeper.
Best course of action would be to resign.
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VHe will be fired for fraud.
Even if its a small amount no one can save him because he literally tried robbing the company.
Plus the company is going to set that as an example for others.
He should resign else they will put this in his experience letter that employee was involved in un-ethical practices.
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DMy gf’s colleague pulled this stunt at his company. Got caught easily and penalised and booted. The dude even made fake bills for some of his friends at work. The rest of them got penalised and had some benefits revoked.
Best thing he can do, resign before it goes on record. They may still penalised him. But if he is lucky, the experience letter might not have any negative comment.
They won’t withhold experience letter depending on how long he has served there. For instance, if he pulled it before his probation even ended, no letter. Straight firing as in the case I mentioned above.
But if he cleared probation, there is a chance he will get it. Can’t comment on this part. I have only seen the case where the person pulled this off during his probation. He didn’t receive experience letter. They blacklisted him from their firms and refused recommendation letter. He could ask for an experience letter. But high chances they will specify reason for being sacked somewhere in the documents they will provide.
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VYou need to resign.
You have committed a fraud and you will likely be terminated and this will show on all your background search.
Resign and offer to pay money in lieu of notice period.
They can deduct the amount you have defrauded them for.
Also, world is not stupid.
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UNAL.
Work at an MNC where fake internet reimbursement bill was caught and the employee was online in the morning and out of the system by afternoon. Made tens of lakhs in salary and got greedy over 10k a year extra.
Time to look for a new job and resign immediately. Most large companies have zero tolerance for this BS.
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UWas the fake bill that terrible to be caught? Fake internet bill is a common practice in our organisation and didn’t hear anyone getting caught till now.
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UHow large is your organisation?
No idea how terrible it was but our MNC has a history of zero tolerance for any kind of fraud. Even directors are fired if found.
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UThis here is the problem. “It’s common practice”. It’s fraud, plain and simple and the argument of it’s common practice won’t stand if caught
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UKuch nahee hoga bank statement edit kar upi screenshot edit kar aur de de . Yeh saare log comments main phattu hai 😂😂😂. Your friend needs to learn from VJM
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UI have heard mncs usually provide two documents- termination letter and relieving letter- in these types of cases. That is if they decide to provide something. The termination letter will contain brief details of the wrongdoing and doesn’t need to be showed to the future employer. The relieving letter is a standard relieving letter and can be submitted as a proof of employment.
But best course of action- resign.
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RFirst, you cannot be forced to submit a bank statement. You can give them the option that it was paid in cash and press on for bills. If they are likely to go for cctv check or something like that for confirmation of your stay and bills, simply rescind your bills by submitting that
1. You’re not comfortable sharing private information, i.e. privacy concerns
2. Citing a technical glitch
3. Submit a request for resubmission of bills, citing erroneous calculation in claim submission and later do not submit at all. Do not ever resubmit that bill.Mind that it all should be in writing, and make sure they ask for proof in writing then also reply in writing. Keep going back and forth, meanwhile close the damn account and eventually cite that the said account has been closed so you cannot submit the proof. It’s all about evading responsibility, but at no point accept your mistake or give them any proof.
It’s hard to fire someone on the basis of the claim itself.
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PEntirely inaccurate advice from a person who doesn’t understand how corporate audits and repercussions work.
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REntirely accurate advice from a person who has maneuvered through countless memos, notices, warning letters, recovery processes, fake and real threats, prosecution and court hearings and much more across multiple government organisations. They don’t even have power to seize and search or prosecute. So believe me the corporate audits ain’t shit and their repercussions are laughable at best when compared.
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DNAL but have seen something like this twice.
A lot would depend on the management, your friend’s position within the organisation and his terms with the management.If he’s a low to mid level employee and the amount isn’t great he’ll probably be asked to resign or fired. Companies don’t like to publicize these things.
If the amount is huge and or he’s senior management then he’s probably doomed.
He should resign and also speak to a lawyer just in case.
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SDid your friend tell you how big the amount was? And what sort of fake bills? If it is claimed that payments were made with credit cards or cash (must not be UPI or bank transfer), the situation can still be managed without getting caught. And what sort of merchants – was it only cab and food or something else too?
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VPlease understand that if this is a part of CTC, and for example he submitted fake bills to reimburse his HRA or medical allowance, the company make take it lightly, and terminate him without impacting his professional record.
On the other hand if her submitted fake bills to claim money that wasn’t his, then he is screwed.
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UNot a lawyer but my company fired 6 ppl over fake internet bills and fake cab bills . We pay as much as a faang company so these ppl were making around 1cr+ yet got fired over a couple thousand
Your friend is toast, as him to dip out with as little damage as possible.
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USame thing happened at my organziation.
People had put fake medical bills for OPD reimbursement provided from insurer. These were initially reimbursed. But later org wide they sent for clarification for bills which they identified as fake.
Those who were able to prove valid bills stayed(being one of them), rest all got fired. So 100s of employees got fired. Though no other legal actions and nothing on experience letter. -
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