Gratuity Terms. Company forcing me to resign before 5 years completion

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        January 29, 2025 at 4:13 pm
        I have been working for this company for last 4 years and 9 months. Today my manager called me told that he doesnโ€™t like my attitude and I have not been productive and I have been delaying all my projects, but thatโ€™s not the case. I have been working very hard and all my deliverables have been before or on time. They have asked me to resign and they are denying the gratuity payable to me. I read online but I couldnโ€™t understand the exact terms. Somewhere I see that after the completion for 5 year I am eligible for gratuity while I read at other places that after 4 years and 8 months I can be eligible for the gratuity payment. My company is sighting 5 year rule and denying the fact that I am eligible for gratuity. Can anyone help me with the exact termsv

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          January 29, 2025 at 4:17 pm
          Name and shame after you quit

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              January 29, 2025 at 4:22 pm
              Obviously I will.

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              January 29, 2025 at 4:18 pm
              Refuse to resign. Let them terminate you if they want to

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                  January 29, 2025 at 4:22 pm
                  In that case will I be eligible for gratuity payment? I donโ€™t understand the exact terms. I read various blogs mentioning 4.8 years to 5 years

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                      January 29, 2025 at 4:26 pm
                      Yes. If you complete 5 years.

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                          January 30, 2025 at 7:48 am
                          4 years and 180 days is sufficient. It gets rounded off to 5 years.

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                              February 2, 2025 at 4:40 am
                              No, 180 days is for underground workers. For others it is 240 days.

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                                  Whatโ€™s underground worker? Miners?

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                                      February 2, 2025 at 8:19 am
                                      Yes

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                                January 29, 2025 at 4:28 pm
                                I got after 4 years 7 months

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                                    January 29, 2025 at 4:28 pm
                                    How so?

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                                        January 29, 2025 at 6:08 pm
                                        Don’t know. Company policy. I guess. 1

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                                          January 29, 2025 at 6:30 pm
                                          as per law, 180 active days (except leaves) is considered full year so if you stay at company for more than 4yr 6months then they need to pay gratuity

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                                    January 29, 2025 at 4:29 pm
                                    This [article](https://www.news18.com/business/can-you-claim-gratuity-before-5-years-yes-heres-how-8550590.html) mentions that you can be eligible for gratuity before 5 years.

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                                      January 29, 2025 at 4:38 pm
                                      You’ll gratuity after 4.7 years. I had received it. Do not worry much about it. Were you a non FTE in your early years?

                                      Focus on finding the next job!

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                                          January 29, 2025 at 4:57 pm
                                          No I have been FTE since day 1

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                                              January 29, 2025 at 5:10 pm
                                              Then you should be getting gratuity. I don’t see a way for you not getting it. I hope someone from HR or finance background can shed more light here

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                                                February 2, 2025 at 4:41 am
                                                Which state are you located in? Some HCs have ruled that you can get gratuity after 4yr 8 months. If you have completed 8 months in service.

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                                                    February 2, 2025 at 11:59 am
                                                    I am located in blr, my company told that itโ€™s 5 years and there are no T&C

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                                                        February 2, 2025 at 12:50 pm
                                                        Karnataka doesn’t have a HC judgement on this. So it’s up to them to apply in good faith like a lot of other companies do

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                                                            February 2, 2025 at 12:54 pm
                                                            Can I drag them to court in that case if they refuse to?

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                                                                February 2, 2025 at 1:13 pm
                                                                You can if you want. Look up judgements of Karnataka HC if they have discussed this case

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                                                      January 29, 2025 at 4:48 pm
                                                      Bhai ek baar gratuity act khol ke padh. Jis section ka reference hai woh bata. Fir dekhte hain .

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                                                        January 29, 2025 at 4:51 pm
                                                        Contact these IT unions – https://www.aiiteu.org/, https://kituhq.org/

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                                                            January 29, 2025 at 4:56 pm
                                                            Thanks

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                                                            January 29, 2025 at 4:52 pm
                                                            Document everything in writing. Don’t quit!

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                                                                January 29, 2025 at 4:56 pm
                                                                That I am already doing.

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                                                                January 29, 2025 at 5:03 pm
                                                                See if possible talk to executives above him or the seniors and check out the labour laws and if he fires you labour Minister is there for you

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                                                                    January 29, 2025 at 5:36 pm
                                                                    My HR said that I am not eligible for gratuity payment as I havenโ€™t completed 5 years.

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                                                                        January 29, 2025 at 5:37 pm
                                                                        Did you said the hr about the resignation part

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                                                                            January 29, 2025 at 5:38 pm
                                                                            Itโ€™s politics. HR is there to save his ass. Heโ€™s just a puppet and does everything the founder asks him to do.

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                                                                        January 29, 2025 at 5:06 pm
                                                                        Anything after 4yr 6months should be considered 5yr. At least that was in my last company, and also I donโ€™t think they did it out of the goodness of their heart so it must be the law. It is also mentioned in the gratuity act (not so straight forward manner)

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                                                                            January 30, 2025 at 4:23 am
                                                                            Yup.

                                                                            The Payment of Gratuity Act mandates this.

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                                                                            January 29, 2025 at 5:08 pm
                                                                            According to the Payment of Gratuity Act, 1972, if you complete at least 240 days of service in your fifth year, you are considered to have completed five years of continuous service and are eligible to receive gratuity; therefore, 245 days in your fifth year would qualify you to claim gratuity.

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                                                                              January 29, 2025 at 5:09 pm
                                                                              Four years and 8 months of continuous employment is enough for you to get gratuity. I have got gratuity for that course of a period in my last company.

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                                                                                January 29, 2025 at 5:18 pm
                                                                                Once you complete 4 years and 6 months you are eligible for gratuity.

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                                                                                    January 29, 2025 at 6:29 pm
                                                                                    Yes. Because they round-off the years

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                                                                                    January 29, 2025 at 5:26 pm
                                                                                    4 yrs 8 months is correct, they cannot deny, take them to court

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                                                                                      January 29, 2025 at 5:43 pm
                                                                                      Contact karnataka IT union

                                                                                      https://kituhq.org/ they’ll help you

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                                                                                        January 29, 2025 at 5:48 pm
                                                                                        I think the 5 year clause has gone away. Now Gratuity is payable pro- rata.

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                                                                                            January 30, 2025 at 4:36 am
                                                                                            You are wrong, it was about to happen some time ago, but our corporate overlords stopped it.

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                                                                                            January 29, 2025 at 5:57 pm
                                                                                            That’s a sucky company

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                                                                                              January 29, 2025 at 6:06 pm
                                                                                              You already qualified for gratuity. No firing or resigning can change that.

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                                                                                                January 29, 2025 at 6:58 pm
                                                                                                You need to complete a minimum of 4 years and six months in a company to be eligible for gratuity. I was paid gratuity when I quit the company after 4 years and 8 months.
                                                                                                If the company is trying to fire you to not pay gratuity then they are stupid and you should just move

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                                                                                                  January 29, 2025 at 11:54 pm
                                                                                                  Don’t quit, drag it out. The Gratuity Act is very simple. Make sure you’re an employee at this place (EPF cut, ESI taken) and not a consultant.

                                                                                                  After you drag it out and they terminate you (with adequate notice according to your employment/appointment letter), you approach a lawyer and then proceed with demanding your gratuity, send legal notice, document everything and approach the court if required. All Form 16s and EPF records to be preserved. Any way to get your attendance and leaves documented since you joined will also help.

                                                                                                  If you need help finding a decent lawyer in NCR/Delhi, I can help.

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                                                                                                    January 30, 2025 at 2:35 am
                                                                                                    Your tenure(4.9)would be enough for gratuity

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                                                                                                      January 30, 2025 at 3:32 am
                                                                                                      You get gratuity if you are a active full time employee( not serving notice) for 4 years and 8 months or 4 years and 240 days.

                                                                                                      The Payment of Gratuity Act, 1972, considers 240 days of service in the fifth year as equivalent to completing five years of continuous service. I resigned after 4 years 8 months and got my gratuity in a IT company after 1 month of last working day.

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                                                                                                        January 30, 2025 at 4:11 am
                                                                                                        Exact is 4 years and 180 days.
                                                                                                        As soon as you are on day 181, you are legally required to het gratuity.

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                                                                                                          January 30, 2025 at 4:21 am
                                                                                                          Lawyer on a sabbatical here.

                                                                                                          A Madras High Court ruling allows gratuity for employees who have completed 4 years and 240 days of service.

                                                                                                          Do not voluntarily put down your papers. Document all the emails where your work has been appreciated.

                                                                                                          Show up at work on time and give them no excuses to terminate you.

                                                                                                          Gratuity is a matter of right. Fight for it. Download your company policies and a save a copy.

                                                                                                          You may need to send them a legal notice if they deny you the same.

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                                                                                                            January 30, 2025 at 4:23 am
                                                                                                            Hey OP, you are eligible after 4 years 8 months. I too have resigned post 4 years and 6 months with 3 months notice. So total time served was 4 years 9 months- got the gratuity

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                                                                                                              January 30, 2025 at 8:26 am
                                                                                                              you will get after 4 years 7 months. they cant force you out.

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                                                                                                                It is 5 years. [https://clc.gov.in/clc/sites/default/files/PaymentofGratuityAct.pdf](https://clc.gov.in/clc/sites/default/files/PaymentofGratuityAct.pdf)

                                                                                                                I’m aware of the 4yrs 8 months statement and i think it’s company specific and self assigned. Am not finding any govt rule/regulation specifying that to be 4Yrs 8 Months.

                                                                                                                But again anything over 4yrs 181 days seems to qualify as 5 Yrs. A bit of a grey area though and your HR might know how to exploit this for their own benefit.

                                                                                                                You should get it but looks like loopholes are there for them to work with. Good luck.

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                                                                                                                  January 30, 2025 at 4:53 pm
                                                                                                                  i think > 4.5 years is considered 5 years. CMIIW

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                                                                                                                    January 31, 2025 at 5:41 am
                                                                                                                    Record conversation with HR, after discussion drop an email to HR cc to your personal email that your gratuity will be denied as you have not completed 5 years. They will run back to you and compromise for settlement

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                                                                                                                      Yes at 4.9 you are eligible for gratuity.

                                                                                                                      I got mine when I resigned at 4.9.

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                                                                                                                          February 1, 2025 at 11:36 am
                                                                                                                          Hey relatively fresher here, how much would be the gratuity? It was mentioned 33k in my ctc. So would that mean i would get 33k after around 5 years? Isnโ€™t it a relatively small amount when considered for 5 years?

                                                                                                                          Thanks

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                                                                                                                          I left at 4 years 8 months. I got gratuity. I used to work in a PSU and they are very liberal. Idk, if this a rule.

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