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II live in a society too and have camera on front door. . No one ever objected .
Install it so that it is inside you flat but still covers outside area .
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VHow is the main gate of your apartment complex, your personal property?
Or do you mean the front door of your flat/apartment?
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BHe isn’t saying the main gate of his apartment is his personal property, he said the camera installed at the gate is his personal property. Nothing wrong in installing a camera at the main gate and he is willing to share the footage in case someone needs it.
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SNothing wrong in taking down a camera you don’t own, and it’s within your property. The society premises owns the society technically. They can do whatever you want.
Tomorrow they want to grow their mango tree in common area, would you still allow? Committee takes decisions, and if they don’t factor in the opinion of the residents, they should be replaced instead.
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PBNS section 324 Mischief (destruction of private property) is the one. IPC don’t work anymore. id also suggest you use theft as well. if you know which people did it (from the video of the cctv) do an FIR with their names. also this is a criminal matter, discuss with a lawyer, and you shouldnt go to the police, get your lawyer to come to the apartment. this will also serve as a show
also what was the reason for you installing a cctv? i’m only asking this, if there are criminal reasons, you should say these people likely run that criminal enterprise, and that’s why they were threatened. it goes to motive and you can also add a conspiracy charge.
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FNAL
Your camera should always point towards your gate so that you are not interfering with the privacy of other people staying on the same floor.
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AAre you really a lawyer? Privacy is never expected in a public space. Common areas or corridors are piblic space.
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EWell those people who got your CCTV camera down have something going on. Put the camera inside your house premises pointing in the exact direction. They can’t enter your house to break it.
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HWrong assumption, if i point CCTV to your house/door and you have young girl at your house,
you will always feel being watched and insecure.
Think about it.
because OP can track their movemnt/ time and possibly break in there house, steal or what not.
obviolusly OP will not, but who knows.
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EWe are talking about gates right? If it’s not the gate then I’d agree with you. I wasn’t assuming anything
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LThere a couple of such people in my society who objected to people putting up cameras at their front door as it also covers neighbour’s door and walkway. While people were fighting I got myself a video doorbell. No one has objected as of yet.
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CYea came to say this, if the cctv is facing someone else’s door or walkway, then this is wrong. Better to get a door bell.
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GWhat kind of insecure people to live with!!
They can’t trust you? The very neighbour!! Pitty to live in such garbage society.
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HNot really, it’s invasion of privacy if you point cctv to there Door.
Why would you do so, and it’s uncomfortable because it’ll always feel like being watched.
instead OP should have asked apartment to install CCTV or gave access to society and check footage whenever required.
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QI don’t agree with OC’s trust point, but it is not an invasion of privacy.
If you are in a common area(passageway) you can see their door right? That does not count as invasion of privacy. Anything that you can see from public/common areas/your private place, you can record. It is up to the private entity to create privacy.
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RIt does. In the EU, you can not put cameras which do not exclusively belong to you. Those laws will soon come in India as well.
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QCan you share the law?
And are you saying I cannot put the camera outside my door?
If that is so, can I put it inside my house such that it has a peep hole and functions exactly like the camera outside my house?
P.S. Check out US filming in public laws. It clearly states, there is no expectation of privacy in public and whatever you can see from the public, you can record. Since eyes cannot be trespassed.
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R[https://iclg.com/practice-areas/data-protection-laws-and-regulations/india](https://iclg.com/practice-areas/data-protection-laws-and-regulations/india)
You can do the relative comparision between EU GDPR and the Indian one here for example.
[https://www.oeamtc.at/thema/vorschriften-strafen/zulaessigkeit-von-dashcams-im-oesterreichischen-strassenverkehr-16180594](https://www.oeamtc.at/thema/vorschriften-strafen/zulaessigkeit-von-dashcams-im-oesterreichischen-strassenverkehr-16180594)
Only a few countries in the EU allow dashcams for example. I live in Austria and it is extremely strict on using cameras, even in private. There was a case of someone who bumped into a stationary car. The owner whose car got smashed used his dashcam to find the culprit. But he was fined for GDPR with a high amount. Same with a person who filmed a lawyer inside his own house and said he is recording for fun. Even in private ground, you need to have enough warnings before the person enters saying this area is being recorded.
CCTV seems to have a strange position in Indian laws currently. But a good lawyer would be able to negate the need of a private CCTV that is monitoring common areas. One could focus towards the lock or floor and say it is anonymous to a large extent.
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SThe camera must not be directed towards any other apartment or its entrance.
At least two-thirds of the camera’s field of view must cover areas under your direct control.
If both conditions are met, proceed directly to the police station and file a case for theft, property destruction, and conspiracy. Additionally, highlight the security risk posed by the RWA and identify the individual responsible.
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PMy house owner have installed cctv in his building pointing towards every flat’s main gate is that legal?
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SIt largely depends on local regulations, as there are no clear-cut legal guidelines on this matter. In my case, before installing the camera, I consulted the owner of the flat opposite mine. He not only agreed but also specifically requested that his entrance be included in the camera’s coverage.
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PBuilding belongs to owner and flats are rented and owner have installed cctv’s. Can you answer accordingly now?
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PI don’t think individual owners are allowed to put up their own cameras in common areas. At least in my apartment complex.
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