If we offer bribe just because we want to do a sting operation for proving that the policemen of our area accept bribes for illegal purposes of harassing their innocent tax payers, would that be illegal just because if receiving bribe is illegal then offering bribe is also equally illegal?

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      Superguy5412
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        April 10, 2025 at 8:47 pm
        I want to bring realty of some constables and low ranking officials of the Police who often accept bribes from anti social elements to harm their innocent tax payers of our area by misusing their powers and going beyond their delegated authority. In our colony, under the influence of heavy bribe from a woman, the Policemen of our area almost arrested her husband’s brother and made her in laws sit in the Police Station for the entire evening and wasted their valuable four hours which financially affected their business, on the allegations of offences under IPC 498A by that woman and her family even though they had no evidence against them other than just the statement of that woman.

        In another case, the same local Policemen let the guilty bus driver escape from their custody who drove rashly and therefore seriously damaged the property of one of the residents after getting an illegal cut of the stolen money by the owner of the vehicle and a bribed commission from the driver even though the negligent driving was captured in society’s security cameras and the Policemen did not even send the driver for medical examination to check that whether he was drunk while driving the vehicle.

        There are many other cases of accepting bribes by these Policemen to harass innocent residents of the area under the influence of receiving bribes by anti social elements for e.g. in one more case, the SHO and few constables of our area in accomplicity with a rustic girl who works as a maid in our area together with her mother tried to file false charges of assaulting them when they abused their owner because he had scolded them for not performing their duties efficiently and even registered an FIR which is usually not done immediately and threatened to arrest him too. Interestingly, the maid was in relation with one of the constables of that area and her mother was his aunt who had given loan to that constable and the SHO which we later found out by inquiring the local people.

        If I narrate more stories, then this query would become very long and would unreasonably waste your time. Therefore, I would like to ask that if we conduct a sting operation by offering bribe to those corrupt Policemen of our area for a illegal purpose, just to collect evidences so that we can prove to the higher authorities about their malpractices, will that offer of an illegal purpose be also counted as a crime even though we did that just because we wanted to record it in our camera that they misuse their powers by taking bribes for harming innocent tax payers of our area. Say, we offer them bribe to arrest a local resident on false charges of theft, and record that receiving of bribe in our camera as proof, would making that offer be illegal by us just because if receiving bribe is illegal then offering bribe is also illegal?

        One more case, there is also prostitution happening in a secluded lonely place of our area. The Policemen of our area often receive bribes from those rustic whores to rob their customers who have extra cash and in one case the prostitute after receiving money from the customer refused to deliver her services in return and demanded more money from him and at the same time refused to refund the received amount, when she discovered that he had extra cash. She then threatened to call those corrupt cops and then those constables came who let the prostitute go from there and robbed the customer of his extra cash.

        Though I do not support availing the services of prostitutes as it is equally immoral, but if we conduct a sting operation of this activity too, by applying for the services of that prostitute who will eventually demand more money after receiving the initially decided amount and then those constables coming and rob that planted customer and capturing this whole predicted incident on our hidden camera as a proof of their malpractices, will we be guilty of applying for the services of that prostitute in public just because we wanted to conduct a sting operation to gather proof of that prostitute’s fraudulent extortionist activity towards her customers and those constable’s corrupt practices of robbing that customer?

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        Silentrajnish997
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          April 11, 2025 at 3:27 am
          Police are protected by powerful politicians who get their cut of the bribes. Every month each SO has to provide a certain amount to the local MLA. How the SO gets the amount doesn’t matter.
          Because the MLA has to give money to the leaders and ministers to ensure he’s nominated a MLA.
          Every department is like this.
          Catching the bottom doesn’t work at all and you will end up in prison or a shallow ditch. Don’t bother.

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            Superguy5412
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              April 11, 2025 at 11:04 am
              Even though it is more than a decade that millennium has passed and we have reached Mars, you think that IT revolution did not take place, inventions of machines like Lie Detectors, Narco and DNA Testers did not happen and even today extortionists, mafias and underworld dons exist who can commit crimes and can bribe witnesses, just like what used to happen 30 years ago as shown in Hindi movies of 1990s.

              As per Supreme Court’s ruled decision, each Police Station of India should have CCTV cameras installed in their premises. Inspite of clear evidences, you are still not believing that Internet has now been easily accessible for almost everyone. Pls be informed that in this new era each day there are more than thousands of videos created and uploaded on social media. Today there are more than fifty news channels who very frequently almost daily expose corruption at various government departments and had complaining about them would lead me to ending up in prison like you baselessly and airily said, each news channel’s staff and their anchors would have been arrested and imprisoned by now.

              If you have evidence, then everything works and if I am imprisoned for no proof, then it does not end there for those corrupt cops and never will because if cameras of the news channel or even private people capture this incident of cops refusing to disclose or not able to explain that under the basis of what effective investigation and evidences gathered have they arrested me, it will make a sensation and they will be insulted, laughed upon and trolled in various places including the courtroom when these videos will be telecasted by different TV channels and moreover uploaded and circulated on the Internet and social media platforms like the Youtube.

              Again, this is not 1990 that only Doordarshan channel exists and presents news together with Aakashvaani radio and few newspapers and that too only for few times in a day instead of continuously for 24 hours and 7 days a week.

              Therefore, it is seems quite ridiculous to me when you said that I can end up in prison because you are saying as if you believe that the Policemen have inherited this country from their fathers to cause loss to it by imprisoning me and even after receiving tax from us and though getting their salary from my tax contributed to the government, they are given the right to imprison me only and that too without any evidence. If that is so then one day they will have to imprison themselves only by wearing shackles by themselves only by pushing themselves inside the jail.

              If I do not collect evidences and take action against them, I will still be imprisoned anyway when they again receive bribes from such elements, unless I expose them of this act with evidences for the same. If I have enough evidences to prove that I am innocent, then not just the Policemen but even the staff of the military is not capable of imprisoning me.

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                Silentrajnish997
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                  April 11, 2025 at 3:02 pm
                  Your exposing must have an after effect. Most citizens don’t care. They simply shrug off and walk away. If this was Singapore, your expose would make you a hero. In India it would make you a target. Ever seen a blatantly corrupt politician like Mamta or Mayawati or Karunanidhi dragged from their homes, arrested and convicted of corruption and their wealth seized ? Show me ONE instance in 70 years.

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                    Superguy5412
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                      April 11, 2025 at 7:10 pm
                      There are not ONE but MANY incidents and not necessary of being disrespectfully ‘dragged’ from their homes because that is not an only proof of effectiveness of sting operations. An arrest made in a respectful manner instead of being dragged will not reduce the meaning of effectiveness of sting operations and investigations. So, back to the question, there are not just one but many instances but one incident which I am telling because you asked is about Lalu Yadav. You can look at the instance if you check the Internet. If you want me to show that then here it is >>> [https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/cbi-court-sentences-lalu-to-five-years-in-prison-in-fodder-scam-case-122022100592_1.html](https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/cbi-court-sentences-lalu-to-five-years-in-prison-in-fodder-scam-case-122022100592_1.html)

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                  Superguy5412
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                    April 11, 2025 at 11:06 am
                    A group of mice held a meeting and were discussing that who amongst them will bell the cat so that when it approaches to eat them then they can be warned by its movement of the bell in its neck. All the mice were scared like you and did not think how to do so except only one of the brave mice agreed to do so and it on some pretext of presenting a gift to the cat made it wear the bell around its neck. Afterwards, whenever the cat approached, all the mice would be warned by the sound of the bell and run away and by this way the cat could not eat anymore mice in the future. Had every mice thought baselessly and loosely like you and thinking not to bother, the cat would have continued to eat mice.

                    Almost everyone in the world especially Arabs used to think that the earth is flat and hence feared long journeys in the sea as they thought that if they continued to sail for long distances then they would be attacked by large sea serpents or fall from the edge of the earth. Only Cristopher Columbus was brave and smart enough amongst them unlike you who planned and dared to set off for the search of a new route by a ship even though the destination would have been very far, and the fruitful result was that in almost just a month he discovered the large continents of the Americas. If he and other Europeans were weak minded person like you and those Arabs who think that they should not bother, America would not have been discovered even today and the Internet which are using and enjoying its features would not have even existed.

                    All the overconfident fools like you and those Arabs who thought they can teach others suggested never to travel for long distances through sea routes as they will fall from the edge of the earth but the realty has was proved by Columbus and other Europeans that this is completely false because it is evident beyond doubt that the earth is round and not flat by the photographs etc.

                    Therefore, if you want to still live in 1990 and prefer being scared and weak minded, then be in that situation but do not tell me to also to do not bother about it and think the same way like you.

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