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UReality is not data, open your eyes.
India is an unsafe place for a normal man, with no money to bribe to the judge, with no connection to the party, who pays his 1/2 salary as taxes and yet has to bear the pain of their son getting molested, raped, and nothing can be done about it. Read about baccha bazi in mosques, churches as well. Your religion does not matter, your party does not matter, your vote does not matter at all.
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SBaccha bazi are 100% raped by men. Roman Catholic altar boys are assaulted by male priests. Sai Baba had very credible allegations of molestation make by devotees who are were young men.
What’s the common denominator here regarding the perpetrators??
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U>India is an unsafe place for a normal man
__India is an unsafe place for any normal human being!!__
Here! Fixed that!!
Unless you have money, power and connections all at once, you’d continuously find yourself helpless in one or the other scenarios in India. And it might come to you as a surprise, but if you change the genders in your statement, you’d be even more helpless and isolated.. sad state of affairs but it is the reality
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UPOCSO is a gender neutral law- that applies to male and female children.
The actual stats: 93% of child abusers in India are men and of this 50% are men who were known to the child. And this is just reported data. The reality would skew this even further towards the perpetrators being men who are known to the victim.
If you are really worried about your son or any child in your family and surroundings, please be wary of male relatives- because both statistically and anecdotaly they are the biggest pool of abusers.
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CMods, can we stop allowing people who aren’t law students or lawyers from giving irrelevant legal advice here?
POSCO is gender neutral. I’m a feminist, I stand for gender neutral laws and am anti-rape regardless of the gender of the perpetrator. Y’all have built an idea around feminism that hates men for no reason and women who are feminists are always looking to loot and destroy the lives of innocent men by being gold diggers or lodging false cases. Opposite as to what feminism entails. Vilifying and downplaying our struggles and upholding MGTOW is the epitome of privilege one can have.
Your issue is the patriarchy that wrote laws which hold women and children as victims and men as perpetrators. Y’all will do your “dank” humour, make fun of men who are victims (like that kid Pranshu who committed suicide because of cyber bullying but all I heard from OneX was “earth is healing” 🙄)
This problem will stand as long as patriarchy exists. The majority of the women aren’t looking to rape men. This needs a change of mindset (and change of laws ofcourse). I’m not speaking for fake or pseudo feminism here if you’re gonna present that article of the feminists that were against gender neutral laws. Those aren’t feminists. Things are changing, it’s gonna take time, it’s recent enough that homosexuality was decriminalized, so we need to be more patient for gender neutral laws given that marital rape itself isn’t recognized here.
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U>y’all have built an idea about feminism that hates men for no reason
It doesn’t help when feminist groups advocated against gender neutral rape laws and online feminists were openly supporting Nikita.
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C>I’m not speaking for fake or pseudo feminism here if you’re gonna present that article of the feminists that were against gender neutral laws. Those aren’t feminists.
I mentioned that.
Atul’s case is complex for a layman. I’m gonna be the devil’s advocate here, dude left multiple documents and notes which displayed his severe hatred of women, calling for violence against them and what not. Whatever we heard and read of him was hearsay, there is no legal proof as to what Nikita did or did not do. I don’t support her or Atul, I don’t have a strong opinion on it. Also, twox was the first subreddit to post about Atul and initially garnered support until the online rhetoric played blaming feminism and twox. You can’t expect support if you’re gonna vilify your supporters. Misogyny is unwelcome. Period.
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U>no legal proof
There was no legal proof against Sajid Khan as well. Didn’t stop women from character assassinating him.
>can’t expect support if you vilify your supporters
Women shamelessly used the RG Kar case to be misandristic and vilify and shame men. Do you think men should stop supporting the case because of this?
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URape is a much serious and larger issue and if you think you’re doing a favour by supporting the case(which only was one of so many), shame on you.
>Women shamelessly used the RG Kar case to be misandristic and vilify and shame men
That was wrong but from what they go through daily, it’s probably not easy to hate. Sure some extremists were spreading hate but most were actually scared and that is perfectly reasonable for a woman in this world.
https://www.reddit.com/r/whenwomenrefuse/s/tL97mVd2Rt and it’s just the tip of iceberg, why shouldn’t they fear?
Show me 70,000 women conspiring to rape their fathers brothers and husband’s? Still think you’re doing a favour by supporting one such case?
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CHonestly, this sub is getting more stupid by each passing day. The number of men who harp about men’s right and saying that men are not safe have absolutely no knowledge of what patriarchy is and what feminism is.
OP, this is one of the most stupid posts I have read and you clearly need to improve your knowledge.
I won’t dwell much into it because I doubt you will agree but let me just put couple of points forward.
First, most number of men are raped by men itself. The example of churches, bachchabaazi you gave have men at the helm molesting other men.
Feminism is all about breaking the patriarchal system and ensure that there is equity across all genders. Men suffering is not because of women but because of the patriarchal set up.
The laws are not gender neutral because one these laws have been made by men. Also, more women in India are raped. More women suffer from domestic violence. Last I checked, marital rape is legal.
Men suffer more due to isolation, family pressure, and drug abuse than women violating them. Yes, there are few cases, but violation of women’s right is a lot more than compared to men. I don’t see men saying anything about this.
Of what I have understood is that all those men who harp about men’s right, blame feminism about how we are suffering in reality hate women more than caring about men’s issue.
It’s annoying now because as a man I expect other men to at least study and research rather than come up with these half ass posts about blaming feminism for everything wrong when it is us who have created a system which affects not only women but also men.
OP, read. It is the least you can do.
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MI read an interesting take on women centric laws.. The reason why judiciaries and lawmakers make overtly women centric laws is because they just want to point fingers at the law showing “we are working to improve women safety ” Instead of addressing the root cause of such issues.
This is like putting a band aid on a deep wound.. It’s something but it isn’t useful.
Now for short term, it might seem like it’s actually working but reality is far from it and in the long run, it hurts men as well as women because these laws are not fair and due to these laws resentment towards women increases which is the opposite effect of what the laws intended.
Milords and Babus can’t be bothered to put in the effort for proper laws..
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