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KIt would be COMPLETELY ILLEGAL. Toll collection is strictly regulated, and only the government or its authorized contractors can collect tolls.
If someone set up their own toll booth on their private land next to an official toll and charged less, it would be considered fraud, extortion, or unauthorized toll collection. There have been cases of fake toll booths or private roadblocks where people tried to collect money from unsuspecting drivers, but authorities usually take action as soon as they find out.
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AOh? What if I just let them use my land for free? I want to watch the world burn, would that be illegal too?
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KMake a natural car path and make sure to make it look accidental as if people are illegally crossing over your land.
Go to a police station and record yourself telling them like a Wimpy kid that people are going over your land with this face ☹️
They will take you lightly and do not mention it is beside a toll
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UOfcourse it is, what isn’t nowadays? Direct Tax code is technically against right to privacy directly.
Governments of the whole world are going against right to privacy nowadays.
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AWhat u r doing is stealing government money. You are not building a road but a road to bypass the road toll while commuters still have to use the government road.
Basically u r saying is it legal to collect toll on my own for the government roads.
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AWhat if just open my fences and let everyone pass through my land without a single dime, would that be illegal too? Want to watch the world burn
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SYou are an angel among us if you think that way. But it’s for certain the sarkari babus and greedy politicians will not like it and try to sue or make life hell for you by unnecessary and completely fake charges against you. Because they won’t be able to earn their portion of pocket money collected from toll.
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AThe government never steals they call it taxes when used diligently it will benefit the community in a much greater way.
Yes taxes can be unfair to some who are paying higher but it is not stealing.
Stealing is what its employees and politicians do of government or taxpayer money. I guess that’s the difference in other countries it is called tax payer money that’s why there is accountability while here it is called government money and so no accountability.
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UThese guys have invested more than 500 crores in various projects, so they have financial power, influential people, and a legal team. They won’t let you live in peace. If a legal loophole harms their business, they will disrupt your life in a bad way.
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UIn haryana most of the toll is owned by mafia and gangsters. They are very influential people owned by our government.
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Someone did this long ago for approx 12 years .😂
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SInteresting
> The funds collected over the past 10 years were never misused. That money was used to build four temples and a cricket ground in the village. The sarpanch would also help poor villagers with marriage expenses,” a villager told The Indian Express.
That is misuse. Could’ve built a school or hospital. Instead they build useless structures, and a cricket ground
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IBuilding a school that only teaches boys or upper castes or building a hospital but denying treatment to poor is also misuse, also scamming others to get these funds for whatever reason is misuse, so if it’s all gonna be hypothetical, your point being ?
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SThe temples aren’t hypothetical. They really made those lol, and apparently they (and you?) think it’s the best use of the money.
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IYou are a little thick ain’t you?
– they scammed money, but you think that’s not a problem
– they built temples, you think that’s a misuse
– I highlighted these gospels like hospitals and schools that we keep preaching about can also be misused even after putting good money in. It happens everywhere, maybe you turn a blind eye to it.
While it’s easy to comment without context that these temples are waste, go take a look across the country, how many hospitals and schools are actually run from funds received by hospitals. You or I can’t dictate where people spend their money, if it’s in the right hands it will find its way to the deserving ones and if it’s in wrong, money meant for hospitals and schools also goes into pockets.
Now since your bias is out, let’s talk about exactly how much of “your” money are you not putting to misuse in the name of fun and instead building funds to support the education and health of underprivileged.
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S> they scammed money, but you think that’s not a problem
Where did I say it’s not a problem?
> they built temples, you think that’s a misuse
Yep.> highlighted these gospels like hospitals and schools that we keep preaching about can also be misused even after putting good money in. It happens everywhere, maybe you turn a blind eye to it.
Can be, being the operative word. They can be misused in these far flung fantasies of yours, but by using the money to build three temples, it’s definitely misused. Remember, according to the villagers, this was okay because the money that the sarpanch (a village official, if you aren’t aware, with some nominal power) got from this alternative toll plaza was used to better the village. And the examples they cite are three temples and a cricket ground. These sound like good uses to you?
> Now since your bias is out, let’s talk about exactly how much of “your” money are you not putting to misuse in the name of fun and instead building funds to support the education and health of underprivileged.
Nope. ‘Me’ doesn’t really come into these conversations on the internet at all. This is us discussing a news story. Not us discussing ‘me’. Go back to instagram, you’ll find many with your level of intellect there. Fun discussions filled with ad hominem to be had by all.
> Hypocrisy much??
Brother, you wouldn’t even know the meaning of the word.
Quick advice, if you want to insult people instead of discussing things civilly, make sure you’re not coming off as an idiot. Either learn to argue without resorting to insults, or stay the fuck off my comments. This isn’t your home, where you argue with friends using insults. This will be the last reply i send you. Learn to talk normally to people.
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UThey are quoting what the fellow villagers said, they did what their priorities were. Good use for them, misuse for you.
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DI understand that this is a legal sub, not economy sub.
However, toll operator will first complain to nhai as it is nhai which have him the right to collect toll. If nothing works, they have the simple system of building fence along the toll road for day 300 MTRS from toll plaza
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SThey may build a fence or a wall. They can’t block the OP’s path or access, or dictate OP’s point of entrance or exit.
Whether the OP is allowed to let others cross for a fee is another question.
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DTypically govt acquires a few meters more than the actual road + service road. And to build a house/dabha, you are given access via service road, not the main highway.
Toll roads have been around for 3 decades now. Most of these scans have been covered in agreements between govt and concessionaire.
OP also can’t dictate that his entry or exit has to be in the highway.
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CYou say it’s a highway. Is your land directly adjacent to the highway and entry to your land is directly from the highway? Well, it doesn’t matter.
Secondly, toll is paid for the whole stretch of the road that is used by commuters/ or will use after paying the toll, which you have not built, the government has. So, in effect you will be doing something to prevent the government or the contractor from earning/ recovering the money it spent to build the road. This on the face of it is illegal. You are trying to benefit for someone else’s hard work.
You are thinking that you will make money as public will use your toll as it charges less. This may benefit public but it will definitely not help you. For all, you may face criminal charges as well (which is also legally possible) given your actions. Some may also call it a scam to defraud the government and the contractor.
I am a lawyer.
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W[https://www.financialexpress.com/business/infrastructure-villagers-in-gujarat-create-fake-toll-plaza-collects-rs-75-crore-from-motorists-heres-how-the-scam-unfolded-3344172/](https://www.financialexpress.com/business/infrastructure-villagers-in-gujarat-create-fake-toll-plaza-collects-rs-75-crore-from-motorists-heres-how-the-scam-unfolded-3344172/)
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Y[https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangaluru/karnataka-gram-panchayat-builds-parallel-road-to-evade-nh-toll-wins-fight/articleshow/81898089.cms](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangaluru/karnataka-gram-panchayat-builds-parallel-road-to-evade-nh-toll-wins-fight/articleshow/81898089.cms)
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UDo that and your land will be acquired at ‘market rate’ under the hard of land acquisition for highway expansion and the government will then open a Sulabh complex there most likely. Lawyer here btw, legally there’s nothing stopping you from doing this but sounds like something where you will fuck around and find out. Not worth the risk imo.
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SLet’s for one moment consider it is legal but why would people use your road and not the existing toll road? And does your land open on the same toll road or a different toll road?
There is an example of what you are talking about somewhere in the Europe or Americas if I am not mistaken where someone connected two ends of a public road with their toll road and it reduced travel time so people paid the toll and used that road instead! -
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