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SI am born in 2003 and this is a fresh issue. (Mumbai)
During police verification, the officer asked for either a birth certificate or LC of my mother.now she was born in 1979 at her house and she does not have a birth certificate. We got her LC (transfer cert. as they call in her college) but it doesn’t mention her place of birth…so the officer straight up said this wont work. (No they had no intentions of taking a bribe, we tried that too multiple times)
I am really stressed as to what can be done since there’s no way i can change the LC to mention the place of birth, and getting a birth certificate issued for her seems impossible.
Does this mean I can never get my passport?! since this document is a mandatory requirement and they are just not ready to let it slide even after we tried to give them everything- we literally arranged the LC in a day because they were adamant on it. I am freaking out.
Should I visit the RPO and explain my situation to them? will that work? Also when my application gets rejected what are the consequences? Please help me find a way around this
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IWell you can get the birth certificate issued from the town where your mother was born tho it’s a bit run down process like collecting witnesses for birth like usually her siblings and neighbours and if that had happened in village then letter from panchayat stating that she’s born in this village and the sarpanch knows her , and the same documents goes to the collector office and if approved you’re granted your birth certificate.
On the RPO issue if the police officer doesn’t submit a “clear” report for you to high level (the CP office) you can’t get your passport, the local police station verification is the base level tho book an appointment for RPO and explain your case but I doubt that would yield any results unless the officer is understanding since thats rule to produce parents citizenship proof. and mind you the appointment available for RPO are usually 2-3 months later from the date of booking.
On rejection issue , it’s no big deal you can reapply after the “File number” allotted to you is closed , you can reapply albeit while filling the application form (again) you can see a section “have you applied for a passport and not issued” something with the similar wording you just have to enter the file number you have now.
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Sis there an easier process to get the birth certificate done? im afraid we dont have the time or resources to go back to my hometown and get it done through such a long process
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INot to my knowledge man , you can your relatives to do the deed on your behalf or get it done through an agent or if you’re in Mumbai you can ask your local agent to get a birth certificate or ask your mother’s college to reissue the same certificate but on a new format mentioning her place of birth .
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VYour passport can still be processed even after Adverse report from the police. Usually this happens for the residential proof. However in OPs case I am unsure as this is a new law due to CAA implementation.
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MThis might be the most surprising thing I’ve read today. A policeman refusing a bribe? What’s next?? Politicians actually working toward the betterment of people!!??
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LDid the PSK application go through without issues?
The purpose of PVC is to check the applicants status not the parents birth certificates. Are there other legal documents like Aadhar card for your parents that prove the age? If yes start going the legal route – start with an RTI.See the links below.
https://passportindia.gov.in/AppOnlineProject/online/faqApplicationForm
https://passportindia.gov.in/AppOnlineProject/online/faqPoliceVerification
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LThis sounds stressful, especially when you’ve tried everything you could. You’re not alone in this; a lot of people born at home before the digital records era face similar issues. Visit the RPO and calmly explain the situation. They are usually more understanding than the local police. Also, consider getting an affidavit or alternative documents like voter ID, Aadhaar, etc., that support her identity and approximate birthplace.
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Pyou need to mention what caste or religion you are. your aadhaar should be enough for a passport. this harassment generally happens for lower caste people and religious minorities. you need to talk to a lawyer who deals with these kinda issues. it gets ugly a lot
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Snope i am not from a lower caste or religion. it is mentioned that i have to prove my parents citizenship on the police verification board. idk why such a niche requirement knowing more than half of our generation’s parents dont have a BC or LC
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Pit is to harass lower caste and religious minorities, this is what part of the protests against caa and nrc was also about. proving citizenship is vv weird actually, bc your parents lived there for decades, every neighbor can say you were there. it’s just to harass you.
this also happens: a lot of lower castes in india, especially in bengal, assam etc do not know they are lower caste because the govt treat them as unreserved, but they are similarly subjected to harassment but they don’t know the reason why.
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Pthere must be a motive for the police to do this. if this is not. bribery case, it is either a discrimination case or just personal vendetta.
unless you have personal fight with some police, maybe look deeper into your caste
this kind of denial of passport is extremely common with lower caste population. they face it the most when they get either an educational offer or a job offer. more so if scholarships or high salaries are involved, and the work is not manual labour.
tbh, 3 out of 5 lower caste population will experience denial of service because of their caste location. even if they themselves are not aware of it.
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PRecently in my case of police verification they just came and took copy of my aadhar,pan,driving license , 2 neighbour’s aadhar and 2 notes of 500 and then I got my passport in 1 week
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HSimple solution, you’ll need an affidavit of 2 people who have witnessed your mother’s birth. These two people should be independent from your family. Get the affidavit notarised and submit it to the police. I did this for my clients and it works, worst case scenario, you can use the affidavit to challenge the police before the High Court and the high courts have time and again ruled in favour of citizens that a passport is a right of every citizen.
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SYes as per the passports act, passports can only be issued to citizen of india and as per citizenship act, for persons born before citizenship act 2003, they should be born in Indian and either of his/her parents should be an Indian citizen.
So technically you will have to prove that your parents are Indian citizen. Otherwise show him what all documents you have and ask to prepare the report accordingly and if RPO asks you to explain, then furnish your clarification.
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