Sale deed lost and someone found it and is claiming the land as theirs

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      Coolfalcon8400
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        April 23, 2025 at 5:58 am
        My father purchased a land from Mr X in my mothers name way back in 90s. Somewhere around 2015, my father gave the originals sale deed to some an acquaintances(The acquaintance said he has a buyer for the land and wants to verify documents. Ideally my father should not have given this. But unfortunately he had a moment of weakness and trusted the acquaintance). After this the acquaintance ghosted my father. Did not pick up his calls. Once my father realised he has lost the papers, he filed an FIR, made advertisements on newspapers and got the duplicates made.

        To be on the safer side, he also transferred the land from my mother to himself through a gift deed.
        Now suddenly out of nowhere Mr X(from whom we purchased the land in 90s) reappears and claims he has the sale deed and my mother re-sold it to him in 2012 but it is yet to be registered.

        We have been paying property tax, have built compound to the site and have been maintaining it.

        We have challenged him in the court and awaiting his reply.
        My question is – what are the possible steps he can take to capture the land considering he has the sale deed.

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          April 23, 2025 at 6:06 am
          he cant. since you have taken all the necessity measures like he filed an FIR, made advertisements on newspapers and got the duplicates made, court will do the needful in your side.

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              April 23, 2025 at 6:45 am
              His best bet is to keep dragging the case so you cannot sell it to anyone and he may also try to take possession of the land himself then it would require a lot of paperwork to remove him .

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                  April 23, 2025 at 6:48 am
                  I dont understand how he will take the possession of the land where the sale deed is in your fathers name? and the present documents tax receipts are all in your father’s name?

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                      April 23, 2025 at 6:51 am
                      This would be his best bet. If he forcibly takes possession, op would have to file a motion to get him removed. He can file counter cases and may even seek help from local police. He may even demand money to settle the matter. This is how land sharks function.

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                          April 23, 2025 at 7:02 am
                          whatever he does, court wont allow since your father is the title holder of the land and once they verify it nothing can be done. dont worry. just wait for the case to progess

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                          April 23, 2025 at 7:39 am
                          Tax receipts are in my father’s name. All the documents are in my fathers name including the Khatha.

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                              April 23, 2025 at 8:15 am
                              Then you can easily contest the case! Also have you filed criminal case against him ?

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                                  April 23, 2025 at 8:48 am
                                  No we have not. For now, just an injunction.

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                                      April 23, 2025 at 8:50 am
                                      Also file a criminal case against him!

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                                      April 23, 2025 at 12:32 pm
                                      Whatever you do, do not under any circumstances allow him to forcibly occupy your property. Once that happens, you’re; for lack of a better word, fucked

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                                          April 23, 2025 at 2:13 pm
                                          If he forcibly enter your property you can file trespassing on him !! Whatever may be the situation every illegal act by him is a legal way to deal with him

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                                              April 24, 2025 at 11:45 am
                                              Yes, in theory. All I’m saying is, this guy is clearly experienced with this sort of thing. He’s going to try every tactic in the book. OP needs to cover his ass

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                                                  April 24, 2025 at 12:08 pm
                                                  True

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                                          April 23, 2025 at 6:19 pm
                                          Tax receipts can be in anyone’s name.

                                          I could pay for tax receipts in your name and it wouldn’t matter.

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                                              April 24, 2025 at 4:33 am
                                              Technically you can pay but the tax receipt will be still issued under the property owner. Just because you pay the tax receipt on someone else doesn’t confer ownership rights or any legal claim over the property

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                                                  April 24, 2025 at 4:36 am
                                                  Exactly. My brother rents a property where the landlord is not paying municipal taxes. The municipal corporation is threatening to seize the building or asking the tenants to pay the tax.

                                                  Why should my brother pay the tax on the landlord’s behalf?

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                                                      April 24, 2025 at 4:40 am
                                                      Go through the rent agreement. There will be a clause mentioning about paying of taxes. Even we have a rented a property and the license is issued to run the business on our name. Now we give rent to landlord and tax to Panchayath. That’s how it works. I don’t know under what circumstances municipal is threatening if the taxes a duly paid

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                                                          April 24, 2025 at 4:43 am
                                                          This is one of those pagdi system properties!

                                                          There’s no written agreement except the rent bill

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                                                  April 23, 2025 at 7:38 am
                                                  How long can he drag the case? We are not in a hurry but an approximate timeline would help us be prepared.

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                                                      April 23, 2025 at 8:02 am
                                                      His aim for dragging the case is different. While the case is pending, if he manages to illegally gain possession, he may demand money to settle the matter. After this he may try to illegally sell the property to another person and repeat the process .

                                                      Land mafia are available everywhere and act in similar ways .

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                                                        April 23, 2025 at 8:26 am
                                                        Court will not award him restriction on sale purchase of land, so you’re fine, even if he tries to drag you’ll to court.

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                                                          April 23, 2025 at 10:39 pm
                                                          Instead of playing defensive. Act like playing offensive. Kill the guy ( figuratively bol rha ) . Find every way possible to legally make his life hell . Get every motion you can get on him . Dig up his past and get more and more on him . Play offensive thats whats gonna offset him

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                                                        April 23, 2025 at 9:08 am
                                                        + file a FIR for extortion, fraud and cheating against him since he fraudulently cheated your father out of his property papers and is later using them to extort money

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                                                            April 23, 2025 at 9:15 am
                                                            Yes that’s what I’m talking about

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                                                          April 23, 2025 at 6:07 am
                                                          what year is the gift deed through which your father transferred the land to your mother, cause if the gift deed is after 2015, then how come your mother resold the land to Mr X in 2012.

                                                          Also an unregistered document for transfer of property holds no legal sanctity in eye of law, at best Mr X can file a suit in court, but it is unlikely to succeed.

                                                          for now you should contact the police as you had already registered an FIR and ask them to take action against Mr. X.

                                                          you do not have to leave your home or anything, but if you want you can file a suit for injunction against MR X , contact a lawyer.

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                                                              April 23, 2025 at 6:11 am
                                                              The gift deed was carried out in 2017.Β 
                                                              Mr. X claims my mother gave the sale deed and took money but the registration to be done on a later stage(which is a lie).Β 

                                                              We have file a suit for injunction against Mr X and awaiting his response.Β 

                                                              My worry is – is there any grounds on which he can claim the land considering he has the original sale deed.

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                                                                  April 23, 2025 at 5:35 pm
                                                                  Mere suit for injunction is not enough,

                                                                  But you need to file a suit for declaration, declaring that property is your mother’s and also relief of consequential permanent injunction restraining the defendant(X here) from interfering with your peaceful possession of your property.

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                                                                      April 24, 2025 at 9:05 am
                                                                      most of the burden of proof is on MR X, they already have a registered gift deed in their favour , so no reason to go for suit of declaration, they should let X file it and proof his own case. that’s what i feel.

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                                                                          April 24, 2025 at 9:10 am
                                                                          This fellow, who asked question here, has stated that he filed suit for injunction against X, that may not be maintainable(in my opinion) without asking main relief for declaration.

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                                                                        April 23, 2025 at 6:18 pm
                                                                        Proof of money?

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                                                                          April 24, 2025 at 9:07 am
                                                                          is the gift deed in your mothers favour registered?

                                                                          you should chill and let your lawyers work the case, from what you have said, your’s seems to be a strong case, let X file his suit and try prove his case. if there is no registered document in his favour then he has no right on the property.

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                                                                        April 23, 2025 at 6:13 am
                                                                        What is selling without registration , it’s nothing but verbal agreement and doesn’t hold in court unless he has the cash transaction details to show for .

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                                                                            April 23, 2025 at 6:15 am
                                                                            No its impossible for him to have a money trail unless he forged it.

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                                                                            April 23, 2025 at 6:19 am
                                                                            A sale is never considered a legal sale until the transaction is registered along with documents. The fraud old owner is playing with you. Fight hard and seek compensation !

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                                                                              April 23, 2025 at 6:53 am
                                                                              Unless he has an agreement & payment proof that he bought the land he can’t do anything.

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                                                                                April 23, 2025 at 6:54 am
                                                                                Is your mother’s name is mentioned in the property tax receipt??

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                                                                                    April 23, 2025 at 7:43 am
                                                                                    Currently, it is on my fathers name(after the papers were lost, the mother transferred the property to my father as a gift)

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                                                                                    April 23, 2025 at 7:03 am
                                                                                    He can’t do shit with the document
                                                                                    The document has already lost its value since a duplicate was made and the property has been transferred to someone else.

                                                                                    If he claims ownership, he should present the sales deed which your parents signed and transferred to his name. The court and police will do their thing, Amen.

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                                                                                      April 23, 2025 at 7:12 am
                                                                                      The culprit knows he can’t hold the land.He must be expecting some kind of a payoff to not bother you

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                                                                                        April 23, 2025 at 7:41 am
                                                                                        Limitations Act will also apply. A good judge will bash him for sleeping over registration from so many years.

                                                                                        He doesn’t has any money trail. You have FIR and other proofs. Your father has done a smart job. You have a strong case OP.

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                                                                                          April 23, 2025 at 7:55 am
                                                                                          I dont understand how people can do such things. Good for nothing scumbags.

                                                                                          Only thing this guy can do is harass you. Whenever you try to sell this land and he gets to know he will try to create doubts in the buyers mind and even though your papers sound like they are all right but when buyers see a mad man with the original papers making wild claims it can dissuade them.

                                                                                          His goal is to be paid off but fuck that. I say let him bark. To be on the safer side, engage a lawyer just so he can help in minimizing the harassment and safeguard you from all possible angles.

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                                                                                              April 23, 2025 at 7:59 am
                                                                                              Yes. Very frustrating to deal with such thugs. We have enquired around and he has been doing such things with neighbouring lands as well for a long time now.

                                                                                              We are currently not in a hurry to sell. Have engaged a lawyer as well and have sent an injunction against them.

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                                                                                              April 23, 2025 at 8:36 am
                                                                                              he is forcing a fire sell.

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                                                                                                April 23, 2025 at 8:50 am
                                                                                                He can’t do shit. The sale deed has your mother as buyer. Him as seller.

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                                                                                                  April 23, 2025 at 8:52 am
                                                                                                  He cannot do that, just for considering his cliam as he has not taken suitable action since 2015 he has lost the claim due to delay

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                                                                                                    April 23, 2025 at 9:23 am
                                                                                                    Get a loan from a bank or NBFC company for 2~3 lakhs on emi and register the loan.

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                                                                                                      April 23, 2025 at 9:25 am
                                                                                                      File a police complaint that the seller is in possession of stolen property along with the lost documents FIR,news paper advertisement etc

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                                                                                                        April 23, 2025 at 9:54 am
                                                                                                        He is looking for some quick money. He will be very happy if you say you are ready to give 1L to settle this because he knows he can’t win. Do not give him anything at all, rather take the paper work, file and FIR referring to previous complaints and make a case he has stolen the papers.

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                                                                                                          Agr meri original Doctor ki degree kisi aur k hath lg gyi to kya wo doctor ho jaega?

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                                                                                                            April 23, 2025 at 3:40 pm
                                                                                                            Nuisance value. He is looking to get some money out of this knowing that once he has claimed title to the property, anyone who would want to purchase it from you, will be deterred and you will not be able to sell the property.

                                                                                                            I am just wondering what have you filed to challenge his claim? Was there a need to do it?

                                                                                                            He has a very bad case, but such suits take awfully long time to get decided, and that is what he is counting on, for you to come forward and settle the matter, where he gets some money.

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                                                                                                              April 23, 2025 at 3:44 pm
                                                                                                              Please dont leave the plot vacant. Whatever may be the legal position, if anyone occupies it, even illegally, you’ll have a lot of trouble evicting them. Build something on it, rent it out and monetize it.

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                                                                                                                April 23, 2025 at 5:07 pm
                                                                                                                You have possession since the 90’s. X won’t be able to do shit. Don’t worry, he has to go court and file a case and prove it. Which he won’t be able to if you have a strong vakil with subjective strength on such cases.

                                                                                                                Remember, Possession matters. Ensure it remains with you always.

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                                                                                                                  As per the section 54 of Transfer of property act,1882.
                                                                                                                  Registration is mandatory for any subject matter, whose value is more than 100 rs.
                                                                                                                  Here there is no registration.
                                                                                                                  So it is invalid.

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                                                                                                                    U need to lodge FIR for theft of document to make your case stronger. Also does he have proof of any money transfer, I dont; think so.

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                                                                                                                      While your dad may have done a wrong thing with handing over the document, he also made the right moves after that – Kudos to him for that.

                                                                                                                      All those are going to be strong documents for you while pursuing the case.

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