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      Superkiran4924
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        Superkiran4924
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        April 15, 2025 at 1:41 pm
        Hello everyone,

        Im looking for some advice. So i earn around 50,000 per month and little bit extra from small chores i do and since last year i got introduced to stake by a friend and started batting money there, won many times and lost many times one time won 5L+ which i withdrew to my bank account and sometimes even won in crypto and did many crypto withdrawls on p2p sites directly to my bank account. I would say the total amounts of transcations done in financial year would be almost 20L or maybe a bit more. Currently im in loss and in a debt of 12Lakhs because of that (lesson learnt) and trying to fix my life. Recently recieved a phone call from bank telling me that my account has been under scrutiny due to high volume of transactions which rises suspicion to money laundering and other illegal activies they asked me to open a regular account not savings if im doing business with money i told me i have a normal job and many transactions are also self transfers as i dont have upi on that account ( which is true). They asked me to maintain a minimum 10k balance and keep note of previous transactions when filling itr if required then asked me to keep daily transactions to minium or average as it rises suspicion and then they disconnected the call.

        Now im concerned what is going to happen next? Am i going to get reported to income tax for fraud or tax evasion? I do have all proof of losses and transactions i have done, do i have to pay tax on this? If yes then how much? Im currently in debt.

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        Bravekiran4796
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          Bravekiran4796
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          April 15, 2025 at 2:09 pm
          NAL-

          **1.**
          **Things you must understand-**
          **a) Banks are required to monitor suspicious activity under PMLA** – Under the **Prevention of Money Laundering Act (PMLA)**, banks must report unusual or high-risk financial activity, especially involving gambling, crypto, or large unknown income sources.
          **b) P2P crypto transfers, online betting, and sudden high withdrawals raise red flags**, even if they are legal platforms.
          **c) Right now, your account is only under **internal monitoring** – you’re not in legal trouble *yet*, but it’s a **signal to act fast** and clean up your compliance.

          **2. Will You Be Reported to Income Tax or Face Legal Trouble?**
          **a) You are not automatically in trouble just because of scrutiny** – But if the **Income Tax Department** notices large incoming amounts that are **not declared in your ITR**, they **may send a notice** to ask for clarification.
          **b) Not reporting income, even from betting or crypto, is seen as tax evasion** – Regardless of whether you’re in profit or loss, any **money credited to your bank account** may be seen as “income” unless properly declared.
          **c) Gambling winnings are **taxable at 30% flat rate without deductions** – even if you’re in overall loss, every winning above ₹10,000 (from gambling) is **taxable**. Losses cannot be set off.
          **d) Crypto is taxable under **Section 115BBH** at 30% as well – again, **no deductions for losses allowed**. You must **report all gains/losses** under the crypto head.

          **3. What You Must Do Now to Stay Safe**
          **a) File ITR correctly this year** – Do **not skip ITR**. Use **ITR-2 or ITR-3**, declare income from **crypto, betting winnings**, and show losses where allowed. If you miss this, you risk **penalty or notice**.
          **b) Gather your proofs** – Maintain records of all bank transactions, betting app screenshots, withdrawal logs, and crypto wallet statements.
          **c) Consult a CA immediately** – Share your bank statements and income history with a **chartered accountant**, and get ITR filed in a way that defends your position.
          **d) Avoid further betting** – Your account is being monitored. Continuing to receive irregular or flagged funds could lead to **blocking**, **freezing**, or even **tax raids** if left unexplained.
          **e) Don’t ignore the bank’s advice** – Consider switching to a **current account** if you must do frequent high-volume transactions. Banks have the right to freeze accounts under suspicion.

          **4. What Happens If You Don’t Fix This**
          **a) You could receive an Income Tax notice** – They’ll ask for clarification on source of income, PAN linkage, ITR details, and past deposits. If unexplained, you may face a **30% flat tax**, **interest**, and **penalty up to 200%** of underreported income.
          **b) You could be questioned under **PMLA or FEMA** if you used **foreign-based betting platforms** like Stake. This becomes serious if amounts are large and unreported.
          **c) Your CIBIL score, loan eligibility, and credit status can also get impacted if your accounts are flagged.

          **I recommend to-**
          1. **Immediately consult a CA** who understands crypto and betting-related tax reporting. Don’t DIY this.
          2. **File your ITR this year properly** – even if you’re in loss, declare everything transparently.
          3. **Maintain all transaction records, wallet logs, bank screenshots**, and build a clear paper trail.
          4. **Avoid further betting or unregulated crypto P2P trading**, especially into your savings account.
          5. If you get an Income Tax notice or bank freeze warning, **respond through a professional** within the deadline.

          Silence = risk.

          • #14320 Reply
            Superkiran4924
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              Superkiran4924
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              April 15, 2025 at 3:13 pm
              So i should talk to a CA and tell him about everything right? I always fill my itr myself but you are right i dont think this is a diy kind of a thing. Lets suppose if the overall total transactions in and outgoing are total above 25 lakhs do i have to pay income tax on 25L? Can a CA help me show loss in this as i already have multiple perosnal loans and credit card debts going on?

              • #14321 Reply
                Bravekiran4796
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                  Bravekiran4796
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                  April 15, 2025 at 3:28 pm
                  NAL-

                  **1. No, you don’t pay tax on entire 25L transactions.**
                  **Income tax is not on transactions. It is on NET INCOME.**
                  So if you received 25L total over the year (crypto + gambling + friends + self-transfer + winnings etc), the **tax will only apply to the portion that qualifies as “taxable income”** under the law.

                  **a) Crypto and Gambling are taxed differently.**
                  – **Crypto gains:** taxed at 30% under **section 115BBH**
                  – *No loss set-off allowed*.
                  – **Gambling/betting winnings:** taxed at 30% **flat**, no deductions.
                  – Even if you’re in overall loss, *each winning is taxed*.

                  **b) Self-transfers are not income.**
                  If you’re just moving money between your own accounts, then it’s **not taxable**. But you must **explain and document it** clearly.

                  **c) Debts don’t cancel tax**
                  Your **credit card dues, loans, EMIs etc. are not considered against income**. That is your spending, not tax deductible unless used for specific business purpose.

                  **2. A CA help you show losses.**
                  A **smart CA can help in three big ways-**
                  **a) Segregate what part of your 25L is income** (crypto gains, betting wins, etc) vs what is not (self-transfer, loans, etc).
                  **b) Prepare your ITR to reflect actual taxable amount** — and ensure **compliance with crypto/betting rules** so that if Income Tax Dept sees your ITR, they won’t question it.
                  **c) Defend your case** if you ever get a notice. A CA can help you draft a response, show transaction logs, P&L, and explain why you’re in loss.

                  **Crypto losses and gambling losses CANNOT be shown to reduce taxable amount.** They are ignored under current law. You will still pay tax on gains, **but not recover anything from losses.**

            • #14317 Reply
              Silentrajnish997
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                Silentrajnish997
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                April 15, 2025 at 3:29 pm
                Stop this nonsense betting stuff.

              • #14316 Reply
                Luckyhero2833
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                  Luckyhero2833
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                  April 15, 2025 at 11:14 pm
                  Are you a business owner?

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