So my friend did a petty theft of a uniball pen worth rs 35.

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        January 30, 2025 at 3:36 pm
        Idk why he did that. He’s got money but i guess month end and stupid decisions as teenagers because shoplifting is apparently “thrilling”. Long story short ; the hyper mart people are trying to extort 10k (he’s still stuck at the mart with them calling his folks).
        Either 10k or police FIR it seems.
        This is in Bangalore. Is there really a jail time or somwthing for petty theft worth less than 100 rs? Heck less than 50rs.

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          January 30, 2025 at 3:52 pm
          Why will he pay 10k, ask them to call police. They will slap the hyper mart for wasting their time for such petty theft .

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              January 30, 2025 at 3:53 pm
              They extorted 5,000rs. that’s the update. He came back home.

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                  January 30, 2025 at 3:54 pm
                  Can they do it? Waiting for some lawyer to assist here.

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                      January 30, 2025 at 3:56 pm
                      Me too. Honestly it sucks ass. The way that they gang up on a fucking 20 y/o thinking they cannot do shit. I want to do something about it. They even took the payment in a personal qr. he insisted on making the payment of the said fine to the mart itself but they denied simply. (For obvious reasons)

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                          January 30, 2025 at 3:58 pm
                          Oh, do one thing and email the whole incident to the mart higher authorities . Good thing he did was paid via QR. send all screenshots.

                          Also never do same mistake again.

                          How do they came to know he has shoplifted ?

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                              January 30, 2025 at 4:00 pm
                              So they were keeping an eye on us because we were basically spraying room freshners (in a close proximity making sure nobody else gets disturbed) since then they kept a track of all our activities. They even told whatever we did. I feel like this is a crime too like we were not guilty by that time why stalking random kids ??

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                                  January 30, 2025 at 4:02 pm
                                  They did a good job.

                                  Why the hell would you spray room freshner ?. Only spray them if they are labelled as tester.

                                  Take a lesson and donโ€™t vandalise things like that.

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                                      January 30, 2025 at 4:03 pm
                                      Honestly, there were some of the freshers which looked like they were all used for testers so we did not think much.

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                                          January 30, 2025 at 8:14 pm
                                          OP, how old are you?

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                                          January 30, 2025 at 4:06 pm
                                          Also, if so, why would they extort 5,000?

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                                              January 30, 2025 at 4:07 pm
                                              It was wrong . Maybe take few friends and aak them to refund . It was wrong for them to do it .

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                                                January 30, 2025 at 5:18 pm
                                                Exactly …you committed crime and in lawless country … offcourse people will teach you lesson on their own. Next time don’t do chapri activity in public.

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                                              January 30, 2025 at 6:59 pm
                                              If you are 20 years old, you are not kids.

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                                                  January 30, 2025 at 7:02 pm
                                                  welp :/

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                                                    January 30, 2025 at 9:18 pm
                                                    This is supposed future of the country!

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                                                    January 31, 2025 at 12:30 am
                                                    You’re not supposed to spray fresheners or perfumes that you haven’t bought.
                                                    No one likes chapris causing them losses.

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                                                      January 31, 2025 at 5:08 am
                                                      Maybe we we need some California style Lathis to ya to teach a lesson.

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                                                        January 31, 2025 at 5:51 am
                                                        U were vandalising things inside the mart and now u are angry cuz they caught u and made u pay 5k? Brotha idk if u deserve to pay 5k but u defo deserve the lesson.

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                                                      January 31, 2025 at 5:07 am
                                                      Teenager? 20 yr old?

                                                      Theft is theft. Until punishment or penalty causes some pain heโ€™ll take it lightly.

                                                      So now itโ€™s memorable and less likely to repeat. lol.

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                                                  January 31, 2025 at 4:23 am
                                                  haha, cops will take cut!

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                                                      January 31, 2025 at 4:25 am
                                                      Just bluff that you are not scared . read other comments . The guys were acting smart and messing their things , so they deserved some thrashing but 5 k extortion is not done

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                                                      January 31, 2025 at 5:25 am
                                                      “It’s not about money. It’s about sending a message.”ย 

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                                                      January 30, 2025 at 5:45 pm
                                                      While it was shameful and illegal to extort like that, I would call it payment for life lesson to your friend. Atleast your friend would never do this shit ever in life again.

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                                                        January 30, 2025 at 5:46 pm
                                                        Law does not concern itself with triffles. Kindly read section 95 of the IPC.

                                                        For your convenience, i’ll copy paste the provision here-

                                                        *Section 95:- Act causing slight harm –
                                                        Nothing is an offence by reason that it causes, or that it is intended to cause, or that it is known to be likely to cause, any harm, if that harm is so slight that no person of ordinary sense and temper would complain of such harm.*

                                                        This defence can be used when the harm caused is so slight that no reasonable person would file a complaint for it. No reasonable person will file a complaint for Rs 35. Even if they do, it will be dismissed.

                                                        They also cannot extort money from your friend by dishonestly putting him under the fear of prosecution (Section 383 IPC). Extortion is an offence punishible with 3 years of imprisonment or fine or both.

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                                                          January 30, 2025 at 5:57 pm
                                                          I am not exactly sure but i guess i read somewhere that you can reverse UPI transfer from your bank

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                                                              January 31, 2025 at 6:10 am
                                                              I think that’s only possible if you are using a credit card with upi…..

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                                                              January 30, 2025 at 7:07 pm
                                                              NAL. Yeh scene wale aajkal bahot video aate hain pronhub pe.

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                                                                  January 30, 2025 at 7:52 pm
                                                                  ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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                                                                  January 30, 2025 at 10:21 pm
                                                                  NAL
                                                                  They knew you guys would freak out and they scammed you
                                                                  Police would not entertain this.
                                                                  Also this is called kleptomaniac

                                                                  (I knew a person who used to get thrill from stealing people liquid handsoap soโ€ฆ)
                                                                  You do get caught in awkward situations so its better to correct them

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                                                                    January 31, 2025 at 12:55 am
                                                                    โ‚น5000 was really well spent, I hope this fine will help him to avoid his shoplifting habit in future. Spraying air fresheners was height of shit behaviour! You CHAPRIS deserve it.

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                                                                      January 31, 2025 at 2:29 am
                                                                      Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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                                                                        January 31, 2025 at 3:36 am
                                                                        Thats extortion. They may spin it as settlement but the settlement must be balanced with the crime. 10000 or even 5000 as settlement for a 35 rs theft is not viable but since your brother already settled nothing can be done.

                                                                        For next time(since this seems psychological), tell him to let the police come he might have to either spend a night in jail or might just be let go.

                                                                        A new law is also coming for doing community service for petty crimes like theft of under 5000

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                                                                          January 31, 2025 at 3:40 am
                                                                          Spend the remaining 5000 you’d have spent to get therapy for kleptomania. Else you’ll be spending much more in the future if it goes untreated.

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                                                                            January 31, 2025 at 4:22 am
                                                                            if your friend has money & status, those people & cops will try their best to punish your friend the most by extorting money.

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                                                                              Fu*k around and find out ๐Ÿ˜… Some lessons are better taught to people then learn on their own

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                                                                                January 31, 2025 at 6:36 am
                                                                                Ask them to call the police

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                                                                                  January 31, 2025 at 6:52 am
                                                                                  Section 95 IPC. Section 95 IPC is itself based on the maxim de minimis non curat lex (the law does not take trifles into account). This section is intended to prevent the punishment of negligible mistakes or trivial offenses

                                                                                  The section would have changed since BNS has replaced IPC but it stands.

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                                                                                    January 31, 2025 at 8:11 am
                                                                                    Btw it’s time to get a new friend.

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                                                                                      January 31, 2025 at 9:35 am
                                                                                      20 year old are not teenagers. What the fuck are you smoking? If you are stealing pens and spraying fragrance in stores at 20 year old then you are scums and losers that deserve to be behind bars and get special treatment from the cops.

                                                                                      You are lucky they didn’t file an FIR, once you have an FIR you will have it forever on your visa application and get denied entry in all good countries.

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