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UUser_9a0cb408
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January 21, 2025 at 9:55 amI have a product name “Adu Phalad” registered in 2009 under class 5. I got a notice today from a brand which is called “Dupha” they claim that Adu phalad contains A”du pha”lad , and hence sent me a warning notice. On our product we use the name as two words “Adu Phalad” however the trademark is one word Aduphalad, it does contain dupha in it but we make completely different product and been doing it from 15 years. Should I be worried or is this baseless as the name is contained in middle and has no association with the said company. Please help thanks! -
UUser_90aa8ea7
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January 21, 2025 at 9:59 amI am no lawyer but i think it’s baseless.-
UUser_9a0cb408
OP
January 21, 2025 at 10:00 amI think the same, but it is a very big company who sent the notice so I got a bit worried-
UUser_90aa8ea7
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January 21, 2025 at 10:01 amMaybe just consult a lawyer once.
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UUser_778cc350
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January 21, 2025 at 10:01 am> I am no lawyer but i think it’s baseless.Think of it this way, if you were in OPs position, will this comment help?
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UUser_90aa8ea7
PARTICIPANT
January 21, 2025 at 10:03 amMy sincerest apologies
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MMightyfalcon9189
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January 21, 2025 at 10:03 amThe later company, when they registered their trademark?-
UUser_9a0cb408
OP
January 21, 2025 at 10:05 amIt is since 1960-
MMightyfalcon9189
PARTICIPANT
January 21, 2025 at 10:10 amCan’t you rectify your name? And make it two words separating du pha? It will atleast ensure authenticity in question as per IP Law.-
UUser_9a0cb408
OP
January 21, 2025 at 10:11 amOn our product we use two words only βADU PHALADβ. However the trademark is one word βADUPHALADβAlso we trademarked it in 2009.
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MMightyfalcon9189
PARTICIPANT
January 21, 2025 at 10:15 amYes I am talking about the trademark only, if it can be separated then the name on your product won’t remain in question. Their warning is legally binding for trademark only. Make it two words. it is possible. I used to work in a IP Law firm but now a criminal lawyer, pretty much out of practice for your problem. Otherwise I would be happy to help you in person.-
UUser_9a0cb408
OP
January 21, 2025 at 10:19 amYes we definitely can change it, but should we as in this case we are neither selling the same product nor in any way using any explicit use of their name.We are only worried that the company we are talking about is a big multinational and we obviously cant fight them in a legal battle.
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UUser_9a0cb408
OP
January 21, 2025 at 10:15 amI can think of hundreds of brand names which contains some other brand name in them for example.βwhatsappβ it contains βsapβ does that make it infringement because they are doing different things
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MMightyfalcon9189
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January 21, 2025 at 10:18 amYou could challenge their warning or notice first.
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UUser_6f53fae5
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January 21, 2025 at 10:31 amPracticed IP law for a while, your next step should ideally be to reply to the legal notice and do that under guidance of a lawyer or ask the lawyer to do it for you refuting the claims.Make sure to send the reply your lawyer will know on what basis you should be refuting. Just because the claim could be baseless does not mean you chill.
All the best
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UUser_9a0cb408
OP
January 21, 2025 at 10:32 amYes doing that, just wanted to know thoughts of other people as well.
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DDesisonu9131
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January 21, 2025 at 10:35 amHello. A TM is looked at in entirety, not seperately. Secondly, what matters is that what level of deception can another TM create so as to cause confusion to a man of ordinary prudence amongst the two products.
Having said that, I am still unclear as to your mark and other partyβs. If you could please elaborate Id be able to advise you better.
Donβt hesitate to send a personal message. I am an IPR advocate and Iβll try to help you as best as i can -
UUser_dc7bf4d4
PARTICIPANT
January 21, 2025 at 10:49 amTake a help from a good IP lawyer, use evidence in your favour that you have your product commercialized, you have customers, you have spent on marketing etc etc and for how long you have been using maybe the registrar can rule it in your favour under Article 12 of TM Act-
UUser_dc7bf4d4
PARTICIPANT
January 21, 2025 at 10:50 amNot guaranteeing anything since the laws of TM when it comes to pharmaceuticals are applied strictly so make sure you draw out the case very for you. Because you have been using the mark for 15 years you might have a chance -
UUser_9a0cb408
OP
January 21, 2025 at 10:50 amThey have sent a formal warning and not done any case until now. Should we still send them a reply ?-
UUser_dc7bf4d4
PARTICIPANT
January 21, 2025 at 11:00 amYes, you have to fight for your case or else you will loose your mark.
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BBravenandini6209
PARTICIPANT
January 21, 2025 at 10:50 amTms are looked at entirely. Both Tms are different visually and phonetically. -
PPrakharstar137
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January 21, 2025 at 10:53 amNot a lawyer,
1. If both parties use identical trademark for different purposes (different goods and services) then court may allow such use by both right? If both have been using it for longer period (maybe 5 years or something)2. If the latest registered party can prove that earlier registered party KNEW about the use of trademark when latest registered party acquired it or within 3-5 years of registration and didn’t filed suit within 3-5 years, then earlier registered party can’t file suit on later.
I would advice consult a lawyer though. I have read this from the act some months ago but can’t definitely say if it can help with your case Or not.
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UUser_9a0cb408
OP
January 21, 2025 at 10:55 amThankyou for the reply. We are getting in touch with our lawyer for the same. However just wanted to get advice from other people as well
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UUser_263c0ae0
PARTICIPANT
January 21, 2025 at 11:11 amI had some issues with my logo and cisco guys came towards me, the lawyer asked 25k to fight for me, I got rid of that logo and apologized! But you cannot fight a big organization ! Do not chill, if you cannot lose the name, hire a lawyer before the send cease notice! -
DDesieagle4817
PARTICIPANT
January 21, 2025 at 12:32 pmNAL. Trademarks are registered for different classes. Also, when we file for trademark, it is published in the journal for certain days during which anyone can contest that trademark. Since you got your trademark, the other company didnβt contest your claim so they cannot do so now. But did you renew your trademark in 2019 or not? If itβs renewed and valid, you can reply to that notice with the help of trademark attorney.-
UUser_9a0cb408
OP
January 21, 2025 at 1:26 pmIts renewed till 2034
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UUser_5b7127c7
PARTICIPANT
January 21, 2025 at 1:01 pmWow -
UUrbanpanda2667
PARTICIPANT
January 21, 2025 at 1:18 pmIP Lawyer here. No need to worry. Trade marks are to be compared in their entirety. There is an Anti-dissection rule that says that you cannot take part of a mark and compare it with a part of another mark. You don’t have to worry about it. Send them a befitting reply. -
CCalmeagle9213
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January 21, 2025 at 1:24 pmYou will have to respond to this notice refuting his claims. You need to get a lawyer having knowledge of IP law to respond to this. Good luck. -
UUser_b38fa43f
PARTICIPANT
January 21, 2025 at 2:37 pmIf it is a different class, you still have a chance. They are going to try to prove stating that both the trademarks are deceptively similar, therefore, you are profiting from their name.Let the notice highlight products from different classes and how your customers are not purchasing your products mistaking it to be Duphaβs.
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UUser_c0982666
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January 22, 2025 at 12:23 amI wouldn’t bother giving them a response as well. This notice was most probably sent by an IP law firm trying to cash-in from their client by sending legal notices. They know there’s no case here as there are tonnes of judgement on anti dissection principle applied on trademark infringement.
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