Transactions of 80+ Lakhs in a single FY Year, Wife has no idea. Please help.

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      Ananyamaster385
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        March 1, 2025 at 2:54 pm
        Me and my wife recently found that her HDFC Bank account has more than 80 Lakhs INR Transactions.

        Her father has put Money from other sources :

        Some LAS her father took as well as some of her policies that were surrendered.

        The policies were surrendered by her consent and then the amount credited was immediately transferred to her father’s account. This Policy surrender amount is about 5 lakhs but there are 2 other transactions: 1. 65 lakhs and 2. 15 Lakhs which were some OD and LAS of her father and I saw it got credited into her account and then transferred to her father’s account.

        The scary thing here, these transactions are showing RTGS but there was no OTP or call received by her from the bank. The transaction successful messages came and that alerted her.

        How is this possible? Today when we visited our branch (HDFC) they said this must have been done by an employee of bank. They also mentioned that my wife might have TDS burden on her.

        PS: My FIL is 73 and holds immense investment in HDFC.

        What to do here?

        1. Is it true that TDS burden will be on her? If yes, then what do we do here?

        2. How do we call this out? Isn’t it illegal?

        Please help us.

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          March 1, 2025 at 2:58 pm
          Wow! Your father in law is using his daughter’s account for money laundering.

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              March 1, 2025 at 3:01 pm
              Aware of it. But what to do here? What are the consequences that we may face? We are confused and have no idea what to do.

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                  March 1, 2025 at 3:10 pm
                  An IT audit and notice

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                      March 1, 2025 at 3:25 pm
                      Should we consult a CA?

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                          March 1, 2025 at 3:27 pm
                          Yes. Or you could wait to see if there is actually any action.

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                              March 1, 2025 at 3:34 pm
                              That is a gamble we are not ready to play. Will go for CA.

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                                  March 2, 2025 at 2:53 am
                                  Pls go after getting enough documentation and clarification about things. Because the CA will ask you that as well. If it is a LAS or OD, get statement of that as well.

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                                  March 1, 2025 at 4:54 pm
                                  Why gamble ? Get it cleared and get a good nights sleep .

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                              March 1, 2025 at 4:06 pm
                              Don’t worry too much , check your 26 as form later , if there a tax liability ask your fil to pay 

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                                March 2, 2025 at 1:34 pm
                                Probably he is the account nominee and would have been using a branch who knows him well. My father also does transactions like this.

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                                March 1, 2025 at 4:38 pm
                                How is it money laundering?

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                                  March 2, 2025 at 2:56 am
                                  my alternative theory is – OP know this from the start, and wants to take the legal route now.

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                                  March 1, 2025 at 3:10 pm
                                  These are benaami transactions – Fraudulent under the law.

                                  As a first step, both of you sit with your father in law and ask for a full accounting + whatever assets and liabilities have been created in your wife’s name.

                                  Also check the email and phone number registered with the bank for statements/OTPs etc.

                                  When you have the full information, see whether you and your wife are comfortable with the situation (this may have been planned as an inheritance for your wife).

                                  Take a decision only after this.

                                  (If he doesn’t cooperate, let your wife go to the bank do a re-KYC with a new phone number and email address and take control of these assets. It’ll put you in a stronger bargaining position with him ).

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                                      March 1, 2025 at 3:24 pm
                                      Thank you for this response. I really appreciate.

                                      As I mentioned, There is a Debit SMS and Email but No OTP or Call for the transactions.

                                      The Bank of Employees of our Branch directly told us that someone from the Bank is doing it in that branch. I do not know if that is possible or true.

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                                          March 2, 2025 at 10:15 am
                                          It’s your Pa in Laws RM probably who is playing to his tunes as he gets loads of business from him which translate into incentives and rewards for the RM.

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                                          March 1, 2025 at 4:31 pm
                                          If they are being routed through bank accounts they are not benami.

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                                          March 1, 2025 at 3:10 pm
                                          Need more details, what policy is it? and you explained about 5-6L but what are the other 70L transactions?

                                          and Didn’t quite get LAS and OD closure, how does money come to the account.

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                                              March 1, 2025 at 3:22 pm
                                              The policies were some HDFC Life Insurance Schemes which he made her surrender and she did it. The other amount is LAS and OD which he took out of his Investment.

                                              That is my exact question, we have it in Bank Statement of that some TAPITS TECHNOLOGIES credited 65 lakhs in her account and it was later debited that day to her fathers account.

                                              PS. There is a Debit SMS and Email but No OTP or Call for that transaction.

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                                                  March 1, 2025 at 3:55 pm
                                                  Check your AIS in income tax portal. Most of such payments come after TDS, so tax liability maybe nil

                                                  As long as its online payment, you cannot allege money laundering. As far as the security of HDFC goes, their own is supposed to answer this

                                                  Better not to get legal in this.

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                                                      March 1, 2025 at 6:58 pm
                                                      These days hawala payments also come as bank transfers. 

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                                                          March 2, 2025 at 5:24 am
                                                          These aren’t like hawala. These are from known entities

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                                                        March 2, 2025 at 2:24 am
                                                        Please use full form the first time you use an abbreviation or acronym, such as LAS and OD, do not assume others automatically understand it. Also it avoids confusion in case there are similar terms.

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                                                      March 1, 2025 at 3:22 pm
                                                      You need auditor not lawyer. Have a word with an auditor and take the bank statement alone you

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                                                        March 1, 2025 at 3:27 pm
                                                        rtgs doesn’t require otp if it’s done offline … just a cheque with ur wife’s signature and an rtgs form with her signature will suffice

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                                                            March 1, 2025 at 3:29 pm
                                                            Now I get it!!!

                                                            Additional Information: My MIL can copy her sign very well, she has done this previously when she used to be out of town.

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                                                                March 1, 2025 at 3:29 pm
                                                                yup and if you know the branch employees then signatures on the forms/cheques (even if there’s a mismatch) will be processed

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                                                                    March 1, 2025 at 3:30 pm
                                                                    and if i am not wrong TDS can be claimed while filing ur income tax (please do correct me if i am wrong)

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                                                                        March 1, 2025 at 3:33 pm
                                                                        I do not have that much of idea on TDS tbh. So I need advice.

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                                                                            March 1, 2025 at 3:39 pm
                                                                            better to check with your CA if possible

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                                                                              March 2, 2025 at 11:15 am
                                                                              TDS is just tax deducted at source. This actually has nothing to do with the amount received. You definitely may have IT repercussions, but not TDS.

                                                                              As per process the Bank may have to do due diligence while processing a high amount transaction. You wont get an OTP for an offline transaction. But ideally a call should have been made.

                                                                              Please report this as fraud to the branch if the transaction hasnt been initiated by you. Please ask them to verify the signatures. Banks do take help of signature experts in case of frauds .

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                                                                      March 1, 2025 at 3:45 pm
                                                                      Bro pls check it out asap with bank. If it is related with any cyber frauds then you may land up in soup. I regularly deal in such cases.

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                                                                        March 1, 2025 at 3:47 pm
                                                                        wife will 100% receive income tax notice anytime not necessarily next year but could be even after 10 years.

                                                                        Seek CA advice

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                                                                            March 1, 2025 at 3:53 pm
                                                                            Thank you. Means a lot.

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                                                                                March 2, 2025 at 4:54 am
                                                                                Seek out a very good CA. Do not break/upset relation with FIL. He literally holds the key which will get you out of the mess.

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                                                                              March 1, 2025 at 3:52 pm
                                                                              NAL; Ask your wife if in past she had given her father any signed blank cheques

                                                                              If yes, then that would explain the RTGS transaction;
                                                                              If not, then register complaint with HDFC as to how this transaction was authorised.

                                                                              Like other users suggested, do a re KYC as well with new contact info and also update a newer signature

                                                                              With regard to 80L+ transaction reporting, consult your CA because there are high chances of notice from IT dept in future if your wife’s IT returns are not adequate.

                                                                              Also fetch the latest CIBIL report of your wife to check for any other existing loans in her name that you may not be aware of.

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                                                                                March 1, 2025 at 4:40 pm
                                                                                Hi! Still not able to get an idea of what’s happening here. Can you please elaborate?

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                                                                                  March 1, 2025 at 4:59 pm
                                                                                  Thing with benami transactions is that they can go on for a while without as much as a notice. But when the authorities come after them they throw the entire kitchen sink at them … freezing accounts, money laundering,IT notices and arrests. So get it cleared ASAP . Rest assured the account is being monitored.

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                                                                                    March 1, 2025 at 7:26 pm
                                                                                    If this is policy surrender and credit of money for those surrender… Then just check if any tax liability has arises from AIS and then settle with FIL.

                                                                                    Some people are mis guiding stating money laundering.. This isn’t the case.

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                                                                                      March 1, 2025 at 7:47 pm
                                                                                      Hi. Send a notice under RTI requesting for all the details for the transactions done along with any cheque or debit confirmation taken by the bank. Once you get those contact a good CA as there will be tax implications which will be a great burden for you to clear. If the transactions are fraudulent depending on your family situation and how far you want to take it contact an actual lawyer

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                                                                                          March 2, 2025 at 3:47 am
                                                                                          RTI applies only to “public institutions”; HDFC is a private bank and doesn’t come under the purview of the RTI Act.

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                                                                                              March 2, 2025 at 4:42 am
                                                                                              In that case a plain old notice requesting for the same which the bank has to honour

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                                                                                            March 1, 2025 at 10:53 pm
                                                                                            Better to ask your wife to check and discuss with your FIL as to what happened…things will be clear.

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                                                                                              March 2, 2025 at 1:51 am
                                                                                              Bhai it department might ask for the sources of funds nothing else.
                                                                                              For your income earned via policies or fd it might be taxable and hence the burden of tax.

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                                                                                                See section 68 of Income tax act 🙂 Good luck friend

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                                                                                                  Better to declare income tax and ask your FIL to pay for it.

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