8-10 20+ year old Neem trees cut because society women wanted “sun during winters”. Is there any legal recourse?

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        January 27, 2025 at 5:12 pm
        We live in a co-operative group housing apartments in Faridabad, Haryana. For some time the old ladies have not been able to sit in the ‘favorite spot’ because the tall Neem trees don’t let the sunset sunlight reach them in the evening. Also another family who moved in 2 years ago and started planting his home garden in the common area has been unhappy with the Neem trees because his plants don’t get direct sunlight.
        Both parties have made multiple attempts to have the trees cut down. Once we even had to fight the family because the resident was literally up on a neem tree and cutting a branch himself.
        Turns out the MCF guys visited today (not sure if this is true), and said they need to cut some branches because they are touching the electricity grid wires. Well, okay. Assuming it is true, fine.
        BUT.
        They have CLEARLY CUT SO MUCH MORE THAN NECESSARY. TREES THAT DID NOT EVEN HAVE ANY BRANCHES TOUCHING OR NEAR THE WIRES HAVE BEEN CUT DOWN.
        I spoke to the people cutting it down and they said that some was for the MCF work, but the society families have also come and requested them to cut extra without telling anyone.

        What can I do here?

        It’s painful to see. It’s so incredibly wrong. 20+ years of strong, beautiful, lush green trees just cut down. These stupid men and women don’t realise that these very trees provided shade in summers, which are increasingly unbearable each year.

        I want to slap some legal on the society management so that they know things dont go without consequences. Please help in case anyone has an idea. Thanks a lot in advance.

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          January 27, 2025 at 5:27 pm
          You can inform Forest department. In many states, you require multiple permissions before curing a tree more than 10 years old. Use the red tape to harass the idiots.

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              January 27, 2025 at 5:38 pm
              I’m sorry if the question is a stupid one – Is informing forest department only possible in person at their office? I tried going through forest department Haryana’s website and I can’t seem to find any link to report issues

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                  January 27, 2025 at 5:39 pm
                  Also thank you for taking the time to respond!!

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                      January 27, 2025 at 5:55 pm
                      That would be too late. Tree would be down by then and nothing will undo the done. Sorry to see your AQI increasing by 10 more index in same of holy spirit and sun light.

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                      January 27, 2025 at 5:47 pm
                      Website wagairah koi check nahi karta. Office me ja ke ek baar bata do.

                      Chances dekho kam hi hai but you can try.

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                      January 27, 2025 at 5:38 pm
                      Please do this

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                      January 27, 2025 at 5:45 pm
                      Then people of NCR cry about smog, pollution and what not!

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                        January 27, 2025 at 8:30 pm
                        Place a stone with tika on the base of the trees. Stick a few religious posters also.

                        Then no one is taking down those trees.

                        PS – Be prepared to live next to an entire temple within a few years where the trees are…

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                            January 27, 2025 at 8:43 pm
                            ๐Ÿคฃpta chla 10 sal bad op ke ghar madir bn gya h

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                              January 28, 2025 at 9:36 am
                              This is actually a good idea. Paint god paintings on the tree trunks. Hopefully these idiots won’t cut down trees because they will ruin the painting as well in the process. I hope they fear God if not anyone else.

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                              January 28, 2025 at 3:38 am
                              Bro, trees will grow again. But donโ€™t make permanent enemies in the society. Co operatives are anyways much smaller societies. Go and talk to them, explain your point of view. And maybe, if it were your house that trees were blocking the light to, you would have wanted trimming as well.

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                                  January 28, 2025 at 5:21 am
                                  Old people are generally at the end of their learning period, can’t teach them new things. If elders do not understand the value of trees, it is hopeless. Older generations are supposed to teach newer generations.

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                                      January 28, 2025 at 5:41 am
                                      All I am saying is itโ€™s not worth making permanent enemies for a temporary situations. The trees will go back in 6-12 months. Your neighbors will live with you forever.

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                                          January 28, 2025 at 9:05 am
                                          ‘Forever’? ๐Ÿง›โ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿง›โ€โ™€๏ธ

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                                            January 28, 2025 at 9:37 am
                                            Who told you trees grow back in 6-12 months? Do you feed them a magic potion? It takes years for a tree to grow fully.

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                                                January 28, 2025 at 10:10 am
                                                Trimming happens everywhere. They always grow back. They didnโ€™t fully cut down the trees. OP says they cut more than OP was OK with.

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                                                    January 29, 2025 at 3:53 pm
                                                    Tree lopping is 100% ILLEGAL and unwarranted. Not sure how you have the information that they all ‘grow back’. I have personally seen multiple trees drying and never recovering. With rising AQI, I am amazed how everyone is okay with trimming trees in an unscientific manner. You can choose between trees and toxic air and I am sure it’ll be a simple choice.

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                                                  January 29, 2025 at 3:54 pm
                                                  And the neighbors will give oxygen too right? It’s hilarious how you’re more focused on public relations than environment. Grow up!

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                                                      January 29, 2025 at 4:10 pm
                                                      I come from a grown upโ€™s perspective only. You do you.

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                                                January 28, 2025 at 4:19 am
                                                Usi dhoop se ye chutiya buddhe bachenge garmiyo mein. Ab toh thand haj bhi hai yaar itni

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                                                  January 28, 2025 at 11:58 am
                                                  Contact the Horticuture department.
                                                  Faced similar issue in my society and my Lawyer friend contacted the horticulture department regarding the same. You should be able to find an email or some contact no. on their website

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                                                    January 28, 2025 at 1:42 pm
                                                    Instead of wasting time and money in court why don’t you grow newer plants ?

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                                                        January 28, 2025 at 3:33 pm
                                                        Do you understand how trees grow and how long it takes for them to grow till full maturity?

                                                        Instead of wasting your time on Reddit spewing random bs, go learn a thing or two.

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                                                            January 28, 2025 at 4:19 pm
                                                            I understand what you say but believe me anyone who has ever litigated knows it is nothing but an endless waste of time and money.

                                                            No man made court can depart justice.

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                                                            January 29, 2025 at 3:56 pm
                                                            Let the ones that are planted die, and plant new ones so that people can cut them too? Your statement is devoid of any logic or intelligence. Lopping of trees is 100% ILLEGAL and MC can take strict action including filing of FIRs. You should motivate People to protect the environment rather then being such an irrational pessimist!

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                                                            January 28, 2025 at 10:08 pm
                                                            Neem cutting is quite normal in winter in Rajasthan and haryana.ย 

                                                            All shall grown by monsoon. Doesn’t matter even all branches are gone.ย 

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                                                                January 29, 2025 at 3:49 pm
                                                                I am surprised by what you consider ‘normal’. Air pollution is ‘normal’ too now so I am sure you love the toxic air as well. Tree lopping is 100% illegal and is a health hazard for the trees. Read more about it and you’ll probably understand how abnormal it is.

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                                                                    January 30, 2025 at 2:41 am
                                                                    ??? I am a born farmer. Avoid giving Gyan about something you don’t know.ย 
                                                                    Trimming of trees is essential to help them live long and grow again.ย 

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                                                                        January 30, 2025 at 3:26 am
                                                                        It’ll help Mr. ‘Born Farmer’ to understand the difference between ‘Pruning’ and unscientific ‘lopping’ before sharing his gyan with others.

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                                                                            January 31, 2025 at 4:15 pm
                                                                            Itna english nahi aata bhai. I am telling you it is healthy for neem trees culling. Pruning is mostly to fruit trees like apple in uttrakhand but neem we trim a lot in winter and it grews back healthy in monsoon.ย 

                                                                            It is quite simple and popular in raj+Haryana where neem is native.

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                                                                              January 31, 2025 at 4:21 pm
                                                                              Itna english nahi aata bhai. I am telling you it is healthy for neem trees culling. Pruning is mostly to fruit trees like apple in uttrakhand but neem we trim a lot in winter and it grews back healthy in monsoon.ย 

                                                                              It is quite simple and popular in raj+Haryana where neem is native.

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