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A-Hi, I am a Hindu Male.
-I work in petro-chemical industry and earn around 36 LPA.
– Lets say , If after a few years of marriage, a divorce is initiated by myself or my wife,…What IF I change my 36 LPA job to a ‘genuine job of about 8 LPA’ for 2-3 years till the alimony amount is decided….
Question 1 ) Will the new alimony be decided on the 8LPA job or will it be decided on my last job, which would be 36 LPA.
Question 2 ) If the alimony amount is finally decided by the judge on my income of 8 LPA…Can i switch back to the 36 LPA job without having to pay more ADDITIONAL alimony ? Can the wife go back to the court and ask for a larger alimony due to my increment in salary ?
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SYeah and if she finds this out you will be tried for willfully cheating, do a one time settlement and get out for good. That is the safest way
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AOkay, so it doesn’t make any sense to reduce myself to a inferior job in order to get away with a lower alimony amount.
Better is to stick to my original 36 LPA job and continue paying a larger alimony.
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SAgain a settlement is the fastest way to rip the bandage off but if it’s alimony you prefer then yeah that’s the best way
Btw: Indian rules are shit when it comes to alimony in general women are favoured heavily but that’s my opinion.
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AYes, but seeing my income…I think she would rather press for an alimony than a one time settlement…This way she can milk me best…?
or am i missing something ?
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RWives and their lawyers have now become characterless and ready to stoop as low as possible. Women have become free loaders and greedy for alimony. And the judges are extra sensitive to women.
So chances are your wife’s lawyer will prove you did the job switch intentionally or who goes from 30 to 8.
There it is the judge will rip you off.Best to consult an expert divorce lawyer.
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AMy 36 LPA job requires a lot of physical and mental strength..
I can say that i am not in a good mental condition to do the 36 LPA job and it can result in injury or fatality for me.
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RThe judge won’t listen to this shit, he would ask you why drop down to 8? you can look for another job at around 20-25
Second thing, if you get back at 32 post alimony, she will wreak havoc with other charges and proving that you misguided the court.
Contact Amish Aggarwal or a very expert lawyer who is sensitive and who will make sure she doesn’t trap you in dowry or any other case.
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AOkay brother. I understand your perspective…So it makes 0 sense to downgrade your job.
Thanks for your reply..
Also, are you from law background ?
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1. If contested divorce lawyers will ask your tax forms etc to prove that you were earning 36 & now purposefully swicthing jobs. And why you even want a 8lpa job Idk, you can quit but that will also not guarantee no alimony.
2. If she is totally dependent on you, 8 or 36 you should pay something.
3. For 0 alimony try your luck marrying woman with same salary range as yours.Better not get married with so much hatred for your own half.
Why do you want a woman anyways if you can’t treat her well & already so insecure? You & your mentality will make her life hell – even if she is a good woman your marriage will fail-
A1. I understand.
2. She is earning around 8 LPA
[3.Got](http://3.Got) it.
I am just understanding the law and then i will make an informed decision.
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GThe pointers are correct but why unnecessarily advise anyone on their marriage ? He’s just asking for legal advice.
Edit: Sorry, after you said he needs to be called out, I saw OP’s profile this dude is not even married and thinking about alimony like his another post was what precautions to take and all that. OP if you are reading this stop living in delusion first get married and then don’t even think of these laws cause it will help you only when your marriage goes south. Divorces are the last stage of any marriage and people in India sadly still fear society, irrespective of gender. So don’t worry about the divorce and live your life.
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TI am not the one frustrated, OP (& people like you) are clearly frustrated for not able to decide whether to marry or not because of such hatred towards women & love for money
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RFirst of all, women are not our own half. They’re full and complete humans, who are well educated and can earn on their own. Aren’t they all strong independent women? Kahan gaya sara femin ism? If they have the freedom to do whatever they want, they should have the freedom to earn on their own.
Who says he didn’t treat her well? Women can cheat as well. (And do many other bad things like harassing husband, his parents etc.) And our screwed up Indian law requires giving 1/4th salary to cheater woman as well. This is what MRA like me are against.
There’s no concept of secure insecure in law. Law defines a husband as an ATM machine while a woman as a Schrodinger’s femnist who is simultaneously strong independent and weak dependant. While she earns, she enjoys free money from her ATM , I.e. husband.
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T>First of all, women are not our own half
Not all women , your wife is supposedly half
>If they have the freedom to do whatever they want, they should have the freedom to earn on their own
Then why are there hidden dowries & gifts , men & his family can earn , why do they beg? Men have freedom to earn & do whatever they want yet 70% marraiges even today ask indirect dowry.
>Who says he didn’t treat her well? Women can cheat as well.
I think OP is looking to married & this is hypothetical scenario he is preparing for. He doesn’t have a wife yet but with this attitude it’s not gonna be good.
>Law defines a husband as an ATM machine while a woman as a Schrodinger’s femnist who is simultaneously strong independent and weak dependant. While she earns, she enjoys free money from her ATM , I.e. husband.
Please mention which IPC section in our largest constitution defines this word to word. Send a legit link where it’s written please
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GYes, you are right woman are capable beings and have right to do whatever they want and they can earn as well but mostly woman who are asking for alimony are in need cause they are fully dependent upon their husband and don’t say why they don’t work cause sometimes husband wants housewife and sometimes there’s no one to look after children and she has to leave her job in order to nurture her child. Now you will say they still can earn and avail services like childcare but would you leave your child in care of other people totally? No.
Woman in adulterous relationship are not liable for alimony, that’s the law. See section 125(4) CrPC
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R1. Op’s wife is earning 8 LPA and I have read a lot about alimony and maintenance in India. I’m not a lawyer, but most definitely she will get 1/4 of his salary as maintenance. It’s not only for housewives.
2. A woman is not liable for alimony only when she is living with her BF. It’s not applicable if both live separately.
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GOP is not married and lives in delusion. See his profile you will find post Gina asking what to do before marriage laws to know. This is negative thought process to begin with, why are you searching laws for alimony and divorce when you want to get married??stay single. Alimony and divorce is the last stage and court also does reconciliation and all, it’s not given so easily in every cases. Also, if everything is going well in marriage, what is the need to go to divorce and alimony.
Alimony is not granted to working woman. Please read more.
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GBro, celebrity cases are different than (normal people)civil maintenance cases, they hire best lawyers which will provide them speedy trial. Also, there’s a provision that wife has to be maintained as she was living in marriage.
Many High Courts see, if man and woman earning the same then wife is not liable for maintenance, alimony and maintenance depends case to case. Still courts now are changing their view by not giving alimony to wives.
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RNow you have contradicted yourself. If wife earns 8 lpa and husband 32 lpa, wife will get maintenance, which is OP’s case and most common case in India. Wife earning same as husband is rare in india.
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UChange your job first. Wait a year. Then file for divorce. Contested divorces take 2-3 years. Be prepared for that. Unless it’s a onetime settlement, your wife can always approach the court for change in circumstances.
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AThanks mate.
So change your job before divorce is initiated.
and also understood that going back to the original job will increase the alimony amount if wife goes back to the court
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UDo the economics. If it’s a short marriage, I would just initiate the divorce. Indian women and their lawyers are nothing less than scum.
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GWhy you have to generalise every Indian woman and lawyer ? When Male and their lawyers apply the same tactics as to not give dependant woman and his children no alimony and maintenance, even when they are capable of.
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UI didn’t say every woman, did I? If you need a reality check go to a divorce court, and ask a random sample of men what cases they are fighting- they will say dowry harassment, DV, outraging modesty at the minimum. It’s not about the man’s capability or incapability. My question is very simple: why is a capable woman harassing for alimony when she can go earn her living? I can show you countless examples where the woman has MBA/ LLB/ MBBS- and still come to court and demand alimony for a marriage that didn’t even last 1 year. Why? Because they didn’t want to adjust and wanted the guy to give up everything. So yeah- I have every right to generalize and say women do this in divorce cases because…most of them do. And generalization talks about the majority, not everyone.
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GI have Masters in law and I am very much aware about the situation. Every case is different and woman are told to adjust more and now woman aren’t so that’s why divorce is happening. The thing you are saying woman with LBB/ MBA / MBBS is true but they have left the work to be housewife mostly not by choice but due to pressure of in-laws and husband, that they do not want working wife’s or they don’t contribute to taking care of children and have to choose between work and their children. Your opinion is naturally biased and doesn’t look the fact that in general woman suffer most post marriage, yes misuse of laws are there but less.
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UWoman are told to adjust more is a very arbitrary statement. Men adjust too. That’s not shown or talked about. Divorce is happening not because woman are adjusting less. They are not adjusting at all because the law favors them. And they are given a gun while the man is given nothing.
You raise a very important point about woman leaving the workforce. But if you go sample the same random majority of men I spoke above, more than 70% are working wives. Even in the case of Op, his wife is working. What do you say to that? Like a marriage of 1 year gives her the right to 40 years of same lifestyle in the marriage that she did not enjoy for the first 20-30 years of her life?
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GWoman are not adjusting because they don’t want the lifestyle their mother has/had and they are more independent. This is new era of woman first time working, all woman I have seen in my life are adjusting you might not seen that doesn’t mean it’s not happening all the woman adjust new home, live with in-laws cook and entertain them the problem is not with men but the way they are conditioned to do so. These days from what I have seen people are treating their son and daughter equally and no one is ready to adjust to one other home.
The workforce example, did you talk to woman ? Did you hear their side ? Yes some woman are exploiting the law made for woman are totally depend on man for their survival but that doesn’t undermine their suffering. Also she doesn’t enjoy so much of life in 40 years post marriage, the court doesn’t pay in crores majority amount you will see in lakhs only and if you live in Tier 1 city it is not enough when the child is involved and woman are not granted money if they are single with no child and working too.
Bro, OP is delusional, sorry to say that he is check hai profile you will find post that mentions what laws to know before marriage ? Like what? Like the debate of OP’s alimony is going on delusion that when he will get married and then divorce!!! Honestly WTF.
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UYour argument is hypocritical. Do you want the woman to be modern or do you want them to be traditional? Women who work are expected to do housework too- but that’s what is said. The reality is women who work have working husbands who help with housework. That’s not said. And your comment about women living with in-laws? Most women post marriage don’t live with in laws. They move and have their own independent house. You bring a view that is consistent with 1980’s. Post 2000, most married couples have their own independent home. So adjustment to other home is a weak argument. Like I said, the 70% you see above- they have their own house. No in-laws.
I have several work colleagues. You know what their biggest gripe is? That their husband does not do a,b,c…etc that the other lady’s husband does. Each and everyone of them somehow say that their husbands are useless. And they run the family. They do all the housework. But the moment their car breaks down- who do they call? Their husband. The moment power goes out, who do they call? Their husband. A husband is a useless person till he has a use. But most men, that I know, don’t talk about their wives to their friends. So yeah.
Op might be delusional, but the reality is majority of false cases are initiated within 2 years of marriage. Stats prove this. And they do it with ulterior motives of getting a higher alimony. And yes- the 70% stat I said is very true as 70% of the cases are initiated by so called independent women. I am not talking about women in 10 year marriage with 1-2 children. I’m talking about women who have no children. 50 out of that 70% is the same cases. I don’t lie. Statistics prove that.
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Uhttps://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/toi-editorials/women-misusing-domestic-violence-law-data-tells-a-very-different-story/
https://www.jneonatalsurg.com/index.php/jns/article/view/3496/3159
https://feministlawarchives.pldindia.org/wp-content/uploads/498A-Report-for-NCW-final.pdf
The third one is the best. Shows how many cases are just false. This is from 2005-2009. And you can google for the recent rise in false cases.
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UYou once again make a hypocritical argument that only women cook. This is not 1990’s. Businesses like Zomato are successful because most women now eat out. Step out of your traditional women who is abused at home view. Go into society. Pick any newly wed couple. I will say majority (my majority I mean more than 80%) say they do not live with in-laws. In 2 years from now, it’s the same woman will initiate a bunch of fake cases if marriage goes south. The best example I can give you Atul Subash. The sad reality is that most cases today are those.
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GI have seen woman cooking and doing chores and then leaving for work and yes it’s not 1990s why women are the only one that’s working twice for the same amount. You go into the society you have seen privileged women your entire life and have made an opinion and stick to that. Zomato is successful cause EVEYONE is eating out, why call woman only ? Not man ? Also why do you think woman initiate divorce cases if things goes south? Male also initiate divorce too. Atul Subhash is one case among 100 and there are 99 cases where woman died because dowry was not given, acid attacked and DV cases. Sadly your opinion is same by media houses and new channels so I can’t comment on that anymore. Whatever I say you will say my views are hypocritical without even trying to understand the same, but the truth is your views are hypocritical and woman are still oppressed till this date.
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DHi. I’m a Delhi based lawyer, with an extensive experience in matrimonial matters. Why would you earn 1/4th of your salary to give a lesser amount of alimony? The maintenance amount will make you less poorer than shifting to a lesser income will. Plus this issue will be raised and dissected in court by all means, and will reflect badly on you in the end. You’ll still have more money if you stick to your present salary and give her maintenance than what you’ll have if you shift to a lower package. Please don’t fall for naive advice as the court isn’t blind to tactics and more often than note, it backfires. And your wife can always file an application for increase in maintenance when you financials grow.
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DIt won’t be as difficult to find out as it’s going to be to prove in court that your financial situation hasn’t improved.
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LMy question is also on the same lines of OP but with a different scenario. What if I genuinely want to take up a lower pay salary ?
In my case, after the breakdown of my marriage, I may not feel like marrying again and may want to take up a lighter job with very less load to take up spiritual practices and focus on my mental health. A breakdown of marriage might make me feel there’s absolutely no purpose in running in the rat race and I might just want to work for 4-5 hours daily to just get by my daily expenses.
Can I be forced to give alimony based on my previous incomes ? Let’s say my wife earned 8 lpa and I earned 25 lpa. Then, maybe due to marriage breakdown, I take up a job of 5-6 lpa. What would happen in that scenario ?
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Rdo leave everyjob and surrender to the hills of uttarkhand you will have a good life there with what you have now and get a river drowned death seen by your friend and you will get death certificate now before doing this you have to get visa of a country which is good and which would not check on youand now get a birth certificate from a remote area of india and fake certificates or get a job in you company at a foreign branch do some setting with boss and colleges or get a job in farfar away live happy get a good wife and have kids you must change you name in new birth certificate to every identity doc
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LAs you have not mentioned your future wife will be earning or not. Alimony is a two-way street, though the majority of lawyers make husbands pay. There are few cases where a wife has paid alimony. In terms of the judiciary, alimony is two-way.
It’s strange that none of the practising advocates mentioned this.
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EHi,
This trick is useless, trust me I have done shitty decisions like these. Let me explain
1. You quit your job and go to low salary job and you are assuming the support will be less.
In India cases last for 1-2 years or more. so by the time you will get judgement it will 2 years.
When you will get back to job she will again ask for increase.
So this tactics is waste
2. Fight the support case, delay it ask your lawyer to delay the case as much as possible.
So let’s say after 5 years court decides to give her support. It will be accumulated and you pay EMI.
Also put your parents as support, if possible get another women get kids. Kids will be preferred
Family courts are joke – try to move out of India
Not sure how’s your wife is , but generally they get lot of power in court and want to fuk husband with extortion
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