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RFor context: My grandparents were Burmese Indians (Hindus) who took refuge in India during the 1960s after the 1962 military coup in Burma. The Burmese military expelled many Indians, including my grandparents. The Indian government accepted them, allotted them land, and since then, my family has been living in India. We have all necessary Indian documents like Voter ID, Aadhaar, PAN, bank accounts, and even a (very old) ration card.
Later, my parents migrated from their native state (Bihar) to Delhi before I was born. They never had the chance to attend school, which was unfortunately common in their community and generation, and didn’t start maintaining proper documents until the mid 90s. I was born in Delhi in 2003 and have a birth certificate from Delhi. My sibling(s), born after 2004, were also born and raised here. All our documents (Aadhaar, birth certificate, school, etc.) show Delhi as our address. In fact, we’ve never lived in Bihar, only some extended family (and my grandparents) still reside there.
I recently applied for a passport and I’m the first one in my family to do so.
During police verification, the officer demanded identification documents from a family member living in my ancestral village in Bihar. Even though I never mentioned Bihar anywhere in my application, not in my documents, not in my address history, and not in any of the forms. Yet he insisted that we need ID proof of someone from that area. His reasoning? “To make sure you’re not a Rohingya or Bangladeshi.”
Under pressure, I ended up giving him a copy of my grandfather’s Aadhaar card, even though my grandfather lives in Bihar and has no direct connection to my passport application. This felt extremely unnecessary.
This felt deeply unfair. My question is : What if none of our relatives were alive in Bihar anymore? Would I be denied a passport for that? Can I contest this demand?
So despite having every possible valid document from Delhi, including my birth certificate, I’m being asked to prove something that isn’t even relevant to my current residence or records.
Is this normal? Has anyone else faced something similar?
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NPlease tell me how government should verify your side of story and not consider you illegal?
Document is only way they can do it, considering your parents does have any documents it indicates they are possible illegal immigrant.
Government is doing there job burden of proof lies on you.
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RI think there will be property papers related to land allotted to my grandparents before 1985? My parents were born in 1970s. So, would that suffice?
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MNobody used to take birth certificates seriously before 2000s. My parents won’t have their birth certificates as well, no one used to be born in hospital in those times. The maximum contact people would have with the state will be with the Patwaris. Putting the burden on the citizens is extremely blockheaded, with all due respect.
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NIf they have something to prove that they are son of soil they will get there documents from VDO or patwari.
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NSo do you want government should give passport to anyone who ask and unable to show that there parent where from India.
Land record documents work in most cases, regarding bribe it’s on you if you want to go with formal way(slow) or bribe way. In my native my parents didn’t have pay any bribe for my parents birth certificate.-
MYeah government should not be an ass about birth certificates of grandparents and parents. Your native place may be good, but it’s extremely inconvenient for people who have sold off their land in their native place, moved due to government jobs or if their native place is in a village of Bihar/Jharkhand.
Alll these requirements do not deter illegals. I’m Jharkhand, outsiders are officially not allowed to own lands if they arrived after 1912. The rule is seldom followed. Most people who came after the cutoff date have lands and flats.
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RExactly. Ffs, what’s the use of aadhar card? It’s not the proof of citizenship, it’s not the proof of date of birth. Then what purpose does it serve? Proof of identification? Don’t we have PAN card and Voter ID card for identification purposes. I remember when it used to be called smart card and government was pushing so hard to get it so we got it in 2011 and current government pushed it even harder and now they deny to accept it. Passport is the only actual considerable proof of citizenship in India but to get a passport you will have to prove your citizenship. Clown management.
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MAadhar helps you apply for Pan and while filing a few job applications with the government. It helps the government more than the people.
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