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VYesterday, I was absolutely shocked to learn that Babas at the Kumbh Mela are openly smoking mariju@na and walking around n@ked, with the police completely turning a blind eye. Both of these activities are illegal under Indian law—marijuana consumption is banned, and public nudity is an offence under various provisions. But somehow, these Babas are allowed to do whatever they want because it’s all ‘religious freedom.’
This got me thinking: Can I just exploit this loophole and set up my own ‘retreat,’ where people can gather to chill, smoke dope, and walk around naked, all under the guise of ‘spiritual’ practice? Could I claim that it’s part of a new form of religious expression? After all, if it’s okay for these Babas to get away with it, why shouldn’t I be able to do the same for my ‘followers’?
I need advice on whether I can get away with this legally,
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NAre you rich and educated? Then the system will crack down on you.
If you are poor and illiterate then no one will bat an eye
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UThis is the stupid truth our side of the world runs by. Even so, if you’re above being rich and step into ultra rich, the rules change again, suddenly you’re immune!
I think in this case anything to do with religion that isn’t among the common ones or accepted ones can spark rage beyond comparison in today’s political climate.
On a side note, people in India love to prosecute others as long as it’s within their reach and the opponents are above them. However even that angst has a shelf life, see the started by TV reporters campaigns, they start strong but end fast (SSR for example).
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UNope.
Those Babas are full time not part time. Can you prove that. Otherwise it will became transaction.
And also you need to prove existence of your religion and it’s need and origin. And every details.
Can you .
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>Those Babas are full time not part time. Can you prove that. Otherwise it will became transaction
if I dedicate myself full-time to this lifestyle, then it’s okay?
>And also you need to prove existence of your religion and it’s need and origin. And every details.
Also, who decides what counts as a “real” religion? If I get enough people to believe in my retreat’s philosophy, draft some texts, and declare it a spiritual path, does that make it legitimate?
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U>if I dedicate myself full-time to this lifestyle, then it’s okay?
How will you afford yourself then.
>Also, who decides what counts as a “real” religion? If I get enough people to believe in my retreat’s philosophy, draft some texts, and declare it a spiritual path, does that make it legitimate?
Just to remind you that manuscript of religion is usually written by great writer of that era, even group of genious doens’t came close.
Now, text and manuscript of religion is followed by already practising culture. Those observation is then written down. Not vice versa.
And why GOI even consider accepting your religion. When people is asking for Sarda religion which has more religious grounds.
Actually you can….. But you can’t taste that fruit all you can sow the seed.
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V>How will you afford yourself then.
So basically, if I can fund myself and make people believe in my philosophy, I’m halfway there? Sounds doable. Plenty of modern spiritual leaders and gurus manage just fine followers donate, retreats charge fees, books and merchandise sell, and before you know it, there’s a whole ecosystem sustaining the “belief system.”
>Just to remind you that manuscript of religion is usually written by great writer of that era, even group of genious doens’t came close.
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Now, text and manuscript of religion is followed by already practising culture. Those observation is then written down. Not vice versa.As for religious manuscripts, sure, many were written by great minds of their time. But let’s not forget that those texts weren’t divinely faxed from the sky they were interpretations of human experiences, written down *after* certain cultural practices became widespread. If I take an existing religion’s texts, reinterpret them, and align my retreat with some “forgotten” spiritual tradition, who’s to say it’s not authentic? It’s been done before—sects, reform movements, even entirely new branches of faith.
>And why GOI even consider accepting your religion. When people is asking for Sarda religion which has more religious grounds.
If enough people follow and demand it, history shows that governments eventually take note. After all, every major religion today started as a small movement before gaining recognition.
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U>Also, who decides what counts as a “real” religion? If I get enough people to believe in my retreat’s philosophy, draft some texts, and declare it a spiritual path, does that make it legitimate?
The law does. So yes, first create your following or movement. Be prepared to get jailed as well. Because despite your armchair notions, there is a 90% chance you WILL get jailed for this.
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UPublic nudity in India is generally prohibited under various laws aimed at maintaining public decency and morality.
Section 296 of the BNS 2023 – “Obscene Acts and Songs’Section 20 of the The Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances – Prescribes the punishment for contravention related to cannabis piant and cannabis product.
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ASo you want to something like OSHO,
NOPE, if substance abuse is done of a large level you will be hunted, generally police don’t care about individuals like Babas and uneducated people because they know those guys will prefer to be inside jail rather than paying bribe, if you do something like that either you have to give heavy bribes or get behind bars -
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SThere are retreats like that. There is one on the outskirts of Thiruvananthapuram in Kerala.
So yes, it can be done.
What will make it accceptable or not legally will be its credibility. If a court can be convinced that its a religious experience, then yes, it will be allowed. This is not easy. It can be done, in theory.
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S[https://lifestyle.livemint.com/news/talking-point/inside-a-20th-century-nude-commune-111646917928804.html](https://lifestyle.livemint.com/news/talking-point/inside-a-20th-century-nude-commune-111646917928804.html)
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SThis human urge to Cherry pick things as per their convenience is what’s known as Hypocrisy.
Every country has their culture and things are allowed as per it.
These Naga Sadhus live without clothes completely Naked 365 days even in Himalayas. They are not hypocrites which are doing it for few days, it’s called a life style as per Dharam ( philosophy )
Yes you can get away with this legally, but you need to adhere to those lifestyle.
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BThis is not loophole, by definition babas have nothing to loose. Even if police beat up or put in jail they have already left so called moh maya of this sansar. So its not about nudity its about not caring about beyond that. You take that as it comes. So if you want to run a cult like Rajnish you need to be out of India where nudity is not crime, not in india or you need to be a baba who does not care of any moh and maya. Also there is a concept of nudity in non sexual way, though i find weird but people have exploited that as well.
Also there was a generation that was very easy to fool, in other words, Rajeesh just had early mover advantage, now all those followers are following inherited by their fool ancestors and in india, something is enrouted from very childhood, you believe that blindly, else from outsider view, if any human claims to be god, you need to kick that from the mountain and if leaves he might be god and if he no, you get your answer.
Worst part, parent even in this era pushing their kids to this cult and making them victim of sexually abuse.
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SWhy so much attention to an issue you see occasionally. There’s many rules a particular community follows within themselves which is equally as illegal in the eyes of law but they don’t give a fk because it’s written in their “holy book”
Also these people’s lifestyle has existed before our law came to enforcement. It’s not something that’s hurting another individual who doesn’t wanna be a part of it like “kaafir treatment” or “sati”. It’s a cult a bunch of men are following and practicing within themselves and “whoever wants to be a part of”. What’s pissing your ass about that.
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