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UHello fellow redditors,
My brother has been scammed for 5000£, he paid for the UK visa sponsored job and the consultancy said he has to pay 15000 and they are okay with him paying rest 10000 once he starts his work, on monthly basis.
He came across this consultancy through a very shady(initially very friendly) guy named Sanjay, from Andhra Pradesh.
This guy Sanjay was close friends with everyone in the house, he was on dependant visa as his wife was also completing her masters in the same city (probably same university as my brothers or could be different, details are a bit blurry).
Sanjay and my brother are/were best friends, from sharing marital problems with each other to pretty much knowing every major thing.
Sanjay also helped my brother with some trivial stuff like connecting him with HRs for internship at Sanjays company and other people in his circle. (My brother interned with one of the companies that sanjay helped with)
Now Sanjay also understood the visa thing and wanted to help my brother out once again. So he connected my brother with these consultancy people.
My brother bargained the quoted amount of 15000£, to be paid over one year as monthly instalment with initial deposit being £5000 (dad deposited equivalent amt. in INR)(Sanjay has previously helped with amount conversions and stuff, so he offered to do it again this time)
He then transferred the money to Sanjay’s account and the process began from there, it has been 10 months now, my brother exhausted his visa, came back to india and
Has been asking for refund ever since then, and these guys have been pushing the dates and telling him they will find European opportunities and they are saying they have Care worker roles in the UK etc. etc.There is clear paper trail of money transfer with sanjay. Clear whatsapp communications with sanjay. I also know Sanjay’s address that he lives in gudivada, his bank account details.
My brother is in depression right now and Sanjay or the consultants are not answering the calls.
What are the easiest ways to get a refund and
What are the legal ways to handle it.My family just wants the refund, but I also want some action on Sanjay.
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ENAL.
Sanjay (not his real name) played a long con, invested a lot of his time and efforts to ultimately win over your brother’s trust but he never had good intentions.
The day your family deposited money in Sanjay’s account, they got what they wanted and stopped caring. This clearly shows that Sanjay is a part of the scammer gang and now it’s impossible for you guys to get back any money. I doubt there ever was a consultancy, maybe he showed a fake office by renting a place to convince your brother.
Maybe contact lawyers but make sure you don’t spend lakhs of rupees on lawyers and courts because again as I said, the probability of recovery is next to zero.
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UNo, Sanjay is a real person, we met him once in Hyderabad, he also took me to his workplace, long before the event, and sanjay kept in contact up until last week when my brother lost it and gave him shit. We know sanjays hometown, place of work, bank details etc.
If it is a long con, man he has mastered a few too many things, my brother doesn’t hold sanjay accountable, but I do because that fucker assured that everything would go smoothly.
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EI still doubt it, maybe because I’m a cynical person BUT the main reason I’m convinced that he’s a fraud is that he took money in his own bank account, WHO DOES THAT! I doubt he even paid it to anyone else, just kept skimming your brother till the last moment.
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MWhat is the relation between Sanjay and consultancy firm? Did he hear it from someone else? In that case he was dumb. Is he profiting by referring your brothee? In that case hes part of the scam. Anyways your issue now is with the consultancy. Are they operating out of india or some other country?
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SNAL.
**NAL.**
Based on what you’ve explained, it seems that:
1. **Sanjay’s Role** – He introduced your brother to a consultancy for a sponsorship visa. However, your brother willingly transferred the money to Sanjay’s Indian account without thoroughly verifying the consultancy’s legitimacy.
2. **Understanding of Visa Processes** – Your brother is not new to visa procedures, so it’s reasonable to assume he understood the risks involved.
3. **Visa Type** – Could you clarify which visa type was promised? Was it a Care Worker visa or a Tier 2 sponsorship? Considering the amount it seems to be Tier 2. But for the amount paid if they can get a Work Visa in UK, then try to take the job. But do not spend any more on the visa.
4. **Bank Action** – Since the payment was made in INR, have you attempted to file a complaint with the bank? They might have fraud protection measures in place.
5. **Scam Perspective** – From what you’ve described, this doesn’t seem like a straightforward scam but rather a case of misplaced trust and poor due diligence. If Sanjay was genuinely involved in deceiving your brother, legal action should be considered.
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