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UUser_c16af758
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February 3, 2025 at 9:20 amAs you guys would’ve heard about the Atul Subash case. I wanted to draw light upon the similar incident we as a family are facing on a regular basis at home from the past 15 years.
My uncle(mamu) brilliant guy did his Btech(IIT Kharagpur) MBA (Harvard). Was at once handling 33 countries at Yahoo back in 2008-09.
He married this girl in 2008. Girl was of Noida. Has 2 daughters with her. They after marriage were living in Bangalore.
The girl ran away from home took all the property papers. We came to know about the 2nd child later on. Wouldn’t let my mamu meet his children. He literally pleaded her in front of her family.
Filed a fake case against my family that they used to beat her and ask for money. Everything fake. Hacked into our income tax records to know our property. Demands 4Cr. My mamu left his job 8-9 years back. In his words he said ,’kya fayda iss paise ka’.
Nanaji and mamu used to go to noida from Chandigarh(out home city) for every single case hearing. The distance roughly is 300km one way. Mind that they did this for every hearing and most times when they arrived there the hearing was cancelled.
The girl’s father is retired army officer. They judge ordered monthly maintainence charges although my mamu is jobless.
Both nana-nani suffered heart attacks and has to go bypass 2 times. Nani is diabetic too. They developed these as a result of increased stress.
Few days back the girl’s father gave bribes to delhi police and they came all the way to Chandigarh and arrested my nanu without any warrant. We told them that he was a heart patient and let him carry his medications and please cooperate but all in vain and was driven to delhi and locked up for the night. Call it harassment. We told the judge. Again all in vain.
The girl and her dad secretly paid out lawyer which we were too late to notice . They even bribed every judge that was on the case. All results in their favour. We are still fighting that case 15 years later.
Through my eyes you can see my family suffering every single day, the pain of my grandparents, the whole tension in the house, all the craze for the festivals is gone and everyone is just waiting for the day when it’ll be finally over. I just want my old family back where we celebrated festivals with fun, where i can wait for my mamu bringing gifts whenever he goes abroad for work, where we as a family go to drop him to delhi airport for his flight, where he is happily married, where my grandparents are finally living not just for the sake of it, where they don’t have to worry about the police coming again,where we live as a normal family which has done nothing wrong but just living how the circumstances prevail.
Thank you for listening everyone. Each and every part above written is true.Update- Again an arrest warrant has been issued against my mamu for not paying monthly maintainence. Our latest lawyer is also compromised.
The girl has a well paying job at NIFT noida as a lecturer.
She is living with her jiju. We suspect there’s a relationship as her sister is dead. -
SSmartnavya3496
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February 3, 2025 at 1:26 pmIf you guys suspect an improper relationship have you considered hiring PI or something if you can spend? -
UUser_83dc8ad0
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February 3, 2025 at 1:31 pmDaughter of army officer 🤡 is an enough red flag for me. Telling from my personal experience. Feel free to downvote, i can easily nullify it to maintain my karma.-
RRapidthinker7769
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February 3, 2025 at 1:40 pmWo aatey he houngey -
UUser_513f1656
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February 3, 2025 at 1:44 pmeven I observed that dude. don’t know whats the correlation -
UUser_a9b0bd33
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February 6, 2025 at 10:16 amExactly Army personnel That too from Noida we all know who dominates in noida.
Soone pe abhaga.
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UUser_513f1656
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February 3, 2025 at 1:43 pm15 years? what exactly do they need from you? even ego boost is too much for. long duration of 15 years. Usually there is out of court settlement by paying in these cases -
GGopalmaster633
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February 3, 2025 at 1:44 pmOur country is horrible! 😭
What kind of laws we have and every person gets bribed so easily…
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UUser_513f1656
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February 3, 2025 at 1:49 pmits partially because case is in Uttar pradesh. Atul Subhas also suffered because of this corruption
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UUser_7870de7b
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February 3, 2025 at 1:52 pmAs soon as I read that girl is from Noida, got the ick ki typical yahi act karegi.OP, I understand it’s difficult for you and your family to live in constant stress. As a virtual stranger, all I’ll say is “Sab acha hojayega” 🫂
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UUser_c16af758
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February 3, 2025 at 2:45 pmYeah dude.
Thanks for the wishes.
Regards
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SSakshihawk343
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February 3, 2025 at 2:04 pm* how old are the daugthers? ask ur uncle to get a job, need to stop crying and pull up socks; at times need tough love;* get him a councellor for a few months and pychiatrist to get a few anti depressants. i’m not ashamed to say that civil cases with my family, leaving my home city Blr and friends moving as my father in law not well; getting lazy during covid; putting on weight when i was already fat; has made me depressed and getting help has been a boon. So hope you and your family get the help and fight too!
* go to a good lawyer firm who charge 2-3 lakhs and 2-3 thousand per hearing the wont be magical but less prone to corruption? or if u have a relative/ or someone referred by a friend, though i have seen if they get busy with good paying jobs then they take less interest, in the end we all work for money, i only work (as a software engr of 20 years exper) for 2.5 lakhs a month. lawyers want more if they are good and have experience. now u can scream “fleecing”; “scam”, “cheating”; i call it basic quality, rate, get what u pay for. there are other honest lawyers who take 20-30k to start of with and 1k per hearing, i have one though he has too many cases and is not too good, and wont do anything extra!
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UUser_c16af758
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February 3, 2025 at 2:44 pmSure i understand your advice. Its just he’s not gone haywire or anything. He just he lost trust in the system and that way sad.
He isn’t psychiatrist level depressed.
And thank you for the lawyer advice we are doing what we can.
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SSakshihawk343
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February 3, 2025 at 5:28 pmHe’s not working.
He’s not following up on his cases.His wife left him.
You dont need to go “haywire”. I’m a functioning adult. So are many. I hope you take some trouble to learn more about mental health. Good luck.
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SSmarthawk5696
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February 3, 2025 at 3:31 pmpost in r/iitkgp… -
RRapidumesh7464
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February 3, 2025 at 3:31 pmIf your mama is well educated and able to go on abroad trips for work that means he is capable of making good money. Where the girl is wrong is that it’s been years since they separated and she shouldn’t be eligible for maintenance. The kids need maintenance until they are 18, it doesn’t matter how much the mother makes. The kids belong to the father as much as the mother. I don’t know why Indian divorce system is so messed up that involves parents and siblings. Divorces are between couples and that’s it. Unless there is hard proof (photos, videos, chats) of in laws abusing, in laws shouldn’t be involved at all. Indian men also need to stop being vindictive and cheap, just pay for your kids until they are 18. The. you are free to do whatever you want. It goes quick.-
UUser_c16af758
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February 3, 2025 at 5:16 pmExactly she doesn’t have a single evidence against us. Just she is a woman.
Also the youngest child is not of 18 years so still 3-4 more years for the maintainence clause.
And my mama doesn’t go on any trips. He left his job 10 years ago. -
UUser_c16af758
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February 3, 2025 at 5:18 pmAnd dude we never refused for the children money to her.
We even offered to pay for every education expense and all. But she wants more money in name of whatnot crap.
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EEpicwolf7384
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February 3, 2025 at 5:08 pmSorry op. I’m in the same boat as your mamu. Too many false cases filed against me and family. I couldn’t take it anymore and settled with 50% of property which I bought and they took my son and won’t show him to me. Ask your mamu to settle it and move away. Peace of mind. Not worth the hassle to fight with such people.-
UUser_c16af758
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February 3, 2025 at 5:11 pmThank you for the suggestion sir.
And I’m really to hear about it.
Idk how they take away your hard earned money in a split second and the court even allows it.-
EEpicwolf7384
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February 3, 2025 at 5:14 pmI know, they become heartless once they start hating you. Courts are always in favor of women everywhere. Even in the usa. The amount of time we spend fighting for justice in this fucked up system is not worth it. God will punish such assholes.-
UUser_c16af758
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February 3, 2025 at 5:19 pmI know god will
But right now it seems like the opposite and fuck with the gender neutral laws its always the same.
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UUrbanyashpal663
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February 3, 2025 at 5:35 pmPlease use some extra-judicial methods bro.They are preying on you because they know you will follow the law of land.
Let me list some of them for you:
1. File fake case ( SC-ST, Woman harassment, Attempt to murder, defamation) on the girl and everyone close to her – Jiju, parents, siblings, etc
2. Pay some goons to beat up the close male members of her familyThoda aatank ka mahaul banao…
You have already lost a high-flying career and peace of mind. What else do you have to lose
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UUser_c16af758
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February 3, 2025 at 5:35 pmBhai the 2nd point😭
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UUser_3995a5e1
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February 3, 2025 at 5:36 pmGrow a pair and do what they used to in the old days. Find a well and throw your problem down it. -
UUser_c9ada754
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February 3, 2025 at 6:13 pmthis is only one side of whole story…. no one wants to visit court and destroy his/her peace of mind and family without any reason -
QQuickthinker1971
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February 3, 2025 at 8:59 pmNAL
Hire a detective to collect proofs of adultery against her, that will give some benefit, and once she sees attacking stance maybe she agrees to settle it down outside court, second thing your grandparents can do bedakhli of your mamu so that she can’t claim any thing in property. -
UUser_09c437fa
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February 4, 2025 at 5:29 amRule 1. Never beg to any criminal/abuser ( be it man/women ), they will just torture you more.Rule 2. Always use money/power/contacts to inflict damage ( even in not so llegal ways ), let them have taste of their own pill.
Rule 3. Once a cheater, always a cheater so never trust them to stick to their own words/written agreements or mutual consent. They will always take u-turn to milk money.
Rule 4. Your lawyer is not your friend, he/she is a professional to make money from litigation, so he/she will never choose best remedy for you, instead he/she will choose best remedy for him/her ( for monetary benefits ).
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UUser_c7ace5fd
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February 4, 2025 at 7:07 amTry to seek help from IIT Kgp alums. Find alumni WhatsApp groups or Facebook groups. You might find good help as many of them would be influential people.-
UUser_c16af758
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February 4, 2025 at 8:27 amThat’s a good idea
I’ll ask my mamu asap-
UUser_c7ace5fd
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February 4, 2025 at 7:28 pmI am from IITK. We have a facebook group of alums and also a whatsapp group. Also since your mamu has such an excellent educational background, use it where it will be valued, ask him to post on LinkedIn. His post will soon gain traction and people will be very helpful. Let me know if my advice helps, I will be glad if it does. If possible send me the link to any public post you or her makes. All the best.
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UUser_4cacbc61
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February 4, 2025 at 8:13 amThere is no NIFT in Noida, NIFT delhi hai but they don’t have a campus in Noida.Even if she works in NIFT Delhi, I think you can mail the campus letting them know what’s going on with her.
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UUser_c16af758
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February 4, 2025 at 8:26 amYes yes nift delhi hoga
She lives in noida
We are planning on that.
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UUser_4ebcf40b
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February 4, 2025 at 10:15 amYou should totally tweet it on Twitter!! Only social media outrage can get you all the required help-
UUser_c16af758
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February 4, 2025 at 12:48 pmCan you post this post on twitter tagging mrs. Deepika bhardwaj and everyone concerned as i dont have a twitter account. It would be of great help.
Regards
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CCoolthinker1427
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February 4, 2025 at 1:38 pmIf you can’t win take them all with you when you are going down.After hearing about this case I made the decision that if it ever comes to a point where I will lose everything because of the Indian legal system I will become the judge jury and executioner and gladly spend the rest of my miserable life in jail knowing I did what was required.
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UUser_c16af758
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February 4, 2025 at 5:47 pmThat is a tough decision but kudos you have it all sorted out. May god wish you never have to face this ever in your life.
Regards
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UUser_dd32285f
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February 4, 2025 at 2:39 pmVery Sorry to hear that man. To have 20% of your life drained out of you because of an incompetent system is ridiculous.Not able to meet your own kids is absolute hell. I know it. I am living it. This is after I gave 50% of my assets which is a very very large figure. My ex kept threatening me with false cases against all my family members. She was willing to take my kids on the road. This is inspite of me already giving her a large house and few other assets by then.
Just that we were lucky that our issues happened in the last 3 years. Had it been a few years back, I am sure I would have gone through the same fate.
The mental trauma is immeasurable.
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UUser_c16af758
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February 4, 2025 at 5:46 pmI understand your pain sir.
But atleast its over now that is the good part.
The indian judicial system sucks thats what it is in the end. Even the citizens themselves are not safe.
I wish you a happy life ahead.
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UUser_dd32285f
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February 5, 2025 at 2:52 amThank you mate. We gave whatever she asked for Financially. That was the only way to get out of that.But not meeting my kids is a horrible feeling. Anything I do will disturb their emotional well being. That is where I am stuck. Else I would have approached courts by now.
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UUser_c16af758
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February 5, 2025 at 8:03 pmSame Sir. She is also not letting despite reaching court. Sadly its been years now. We don’t even remember how they look like.-
UUser_dd32285f
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February 6, 2025 at 2:49 amI never understand how any parent can deprive the love of the other parent to children. As adults we can have 100’s of differences but when it comes to kids, it is important that they are not deprived of both the parents love.In fact yesterday I had the same thought. How much would my kids have changed. It has been 17 months since I saw them. It hurts so bad that I cannot be there for them.
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UUser_95ba75aa
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February 5, 2025 at 3:29 amI really hope this is fake for karma farming,as it is better to be fake than real.
If this is real, than this is really scary.
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UUser_c16af758
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February 5, 2025 at 8:02 pmBhai rr martin thodi hun jo khud ka fantasy world create krna hai.
Sab real hai 100%.
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UUser_686ae4e3
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February 5, 2025 at 8:33 amShaadi mein itni jaldi kya hai? Start vetting women more carefully.-
UUser_c16af758
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February 5, 2025 at 8:06 pmIt’s been difficult to know an animal of its true nature. Humans toh tb bhi kaafi upr hai hierarchy mein unse.
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UUser_e8255add
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February 6, 2025 at 7:15 amTo be honest, if one has the money, I’d just recommend pay up the least amount possible at once and get this over with, not let this dictate the rest of your life and move on. There’s clearly no justice. Should’ve entered a compromise and one time alimony for everything. -
FFierceaastha3821
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February 7, 2025 at 7:47 amYour mamu should join a job abroad and move with the parents there. Fuck Indian jurisdictions and police. -
UUser_63dac7e0
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February 7, 2025 at 7:58 amAsk your mamu Shift his house temporarily near to court if possible… and see if it help.. -
UUser_96d569e9
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February 7, 2025 at 2:00 pmThis is sad. Your mamu needs to refresh media memory because Atul Subhash case is long out of media attention and his wife already got bail
We need probably tens of thousands of Atul Subhash before the deaf judiciary does something.Behre kaan me awaaj daalne ke liye aksar dhamakon ki zaroorat hoti hai – Bhagat Singh
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UUser_866f0c9c
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February 8, 2025 at 5:25 amFind someone who can file SC/ST atrocities case on them. -
UUser_297be787
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February 10, 2025 at 3:12 pmSomething similar is happening in my family as well. My relative married a girl from ncr. They met online. Got to know after marriage that the girl has been sleeping around with multiple men (even after marriage). She used to emotionally and mentally abuse my relative and tried to turn the entire family against him before he told us all the reality. They had a kid together during lockdown. Right after the lockdown ended she started living at her parents’ place with the kid and wouldn’t allow my relative to talk/meet the kid and her family started harrassing ours. She then went onto file fake cases on my entire family. Now my family’s stuck in the legal battles. It is so exhausting mentally, emotionally, financially but the laws are biased towards her-
UUser_c16af758
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February 10, 2025 at 9:46 pmI can feel your pain. It’s so disgraceful that the judicial system acts this way. Any girl can file a fake case and ruin a man’s life for good and we can’t do shit about it.
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